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Old 10 Dec 2011, 23:52 (Ref:2998224)   #1
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2012 FIA European Touring Car Cup

Just noticed the calendar for the 2012 FIA ETCC, which is reverting to a multiple event format.

The first three rounds will be held during WTCC events at Monza, Valencia and Salzburgring. Does this mean combined fields or separate races?


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ETCC HOSTED AT THREE WTCC EVENTS

7 Dec 2011

In 2012 the FIA European Touring Car Cup will revert to a multiple event format, just like in 2009 when it was held on three events: Braga, Salzburgring and Franciacorta. Next year the European series will comprise four race meetings. The first three of them will be held during the World Touring Car Championship events at Monza, Valencia and Salzburg.

An ETCC stand alone event will conclude the season at Imola’s glorious racetrack named after Enzo and Dino Ferrari.

Rounds 1 & 2 - 11 March: Autodromo di Monza (Italy)
Rounds 3 & 4 - 1 April: Circuit Ricardo Tormo, Valencia (Spain)
Rounds 5 & 6 - 20 May: Salzburgring (Austria)
Rounds 7 & 8 - 24 June: Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari, Imola (Italy)
http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/read_news.asp?idnews=213
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Old 11 Dec 2011, 01:19 (Ref:2998251)   #2
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That's interesting! The track selection seems to counter the lack of proper touring car championships in the Mediterrean and Central Europe.

I believe that it should be a parrallel championship like in Superstars' International and Italian championships, so WTCC regulars would score too for the European championship.
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Old 11 Dec 2011, 13:15 (Ref:2998401)   #3
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I don't think it has been specified yet but I presume separate races, unless very few cars turn up.

The ETCC cars can only be normally aspirated 2 litre or 1600 n/a, where as next year all WTCC entries have to be 1.6 turbo, unless they are 1-off entries like the Lacettis at Macau.

There appears to be 1 Peugeot announced for the ETCC so far, would hope we will see Hartmann back to defend the title. Would be nice to get a decent field of 6 or 7 front runners as I think it could be good little series if they could get a few decent names alongside the normal entrants they seem to get.
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Old 11 Dec 2011, 20:43 (Ref:2998532)   #4
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There are certainly a shed-load of N/A S2000 cars around for relatively little outlay if a team wants a decent crack at an FIA European title. I'm hopefully of a strong turn-out, one can dream A Hungarian team has confirmed somewhere their entry in a Pug 407 S2000
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Old 12 Dec 2011, 21:09 (Ref:2998918)   #5
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There are certainly a shed-load of N/A S2000 cars around for relatively little outlay if a team wants a decent crack at an FIA European title. I'm hopefully of a strong turn-out, one can dream A Hungarian team has confirmed somewhere their entry in a Pug 407 S2000
Which incidentally has spent the last few years in a shed. My guess is they will share the grid with WTCC, will give them the grid fillers they could find themselves in desperate need of.
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Let's see what we have so far:

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Peter RikliRikliHonda Civic FDConfirmedS2000
Christian FischerRikliHonda AccordConfirmedS2000
Andreas PfisterEngstlerBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
Tim GaborTim GaborPeugeot 407LikelyS2000
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Alexander FrolovMaurerChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
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tbaATMFord FiestaLikelyS1600
tbaGena AutosportFord FiestaLikelyS1600
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Old 10 Feb 2012, 16:11 (Ref:3024148)   #7
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Petr Fulin in a BMW 320si confirmed. Maybe WTCC in 2013.

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Old 14 Feb 2012, 13:46 (Ref:3025722)   #8
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Slovakian team Homola motorsport recently bought Ex-STCC (Stureson) BMW 320si. I expect them to enter the race at Slovakiaring with Mato Homola (last year driving Alfa Romeo 156).
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Old 21 Feb 2012, 19:58 (Ref:3029087)   #9
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Pff, they're really getting desperate for entries now: http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=7220

Allowing the Leon Cupra and Clio Cup cars? The majority of the european national series have grids of a higher standard, just kill the frigg'n championship already!
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Old 21 Feb 2012, 20:30 (Ref:3029106)   #10
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Old 1 Mar 2012, 13:48 (Ref:3033560)   #11
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Michelisz has a positive influence on touring car racing in Hungary.
After Tim GabĂłr in the Peugeot 407, another hungarian might appear on the starting grid of the ETCC: Ferenc Ficza in an Alfa Romeo 156 (ex. Thompson)

http://wtcchirek.blog.hu/2012/02/20/..._unicorse_alfa
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Old 1 Mar 2012, 17:54 (Ref:3033635)   #12
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Nice to see an Alfa back on track.
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Old 1 Mar 2012, 22:10 (Ref:3033757)   #13
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Milenko Vukovic and Milovan Vesnic will enter a BMW 320si (ex Priaulx)

http://www.plumrace.com/vukovic-i-ve...-na-evropu.php

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Old 1 Mar 2012, 22:41 (Ref:3033776)   #14
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Ukranian Igor Skuz will race a BMW for Engstler Motorsport in the ETCC next weekend...
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Old 2 Mar 2012, 10:22 (Ref:3033951)   #15
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Peter RikliRikli MotorsportHonda Civic FDConfirmedS2000
Christian FischerRikli MotorsportHonda AccordConfirmedS2000
Petr FulĂ*nVekra Racing Team/Krenek MotorsportBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
Tim GaborRCM MotorsportPeugeot 407ConfirmedS2000
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tbaBorusan Otomotiv MotorsportBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
tbaBorusan Otomotiv MotorsportBMW 320siPossibleS2000
Mato HomolaHomola MotorsportBMW 320siLikelyS2000
tbaProteamBMW 320siLikelyS2000
Andreas PfisterPfister-RacingSEAT Leon SuperCopaConfirmed??
???Zest Racecar EngineeringSEAT Leon SuperCopaPossible??
???Zest Racecar EngineeringSEAT Leon SuperCopaPossible??
Alexander FrolovMaurerChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
Vadim MeshecheriakovMaurerChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
tbaATMFord FiestaLikelyS1600
tbaGena AutosportFord FiestaLikelyS1600
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Maurer now running a third Aveo, for Argentinian Wilson Borgnino
http://www.touringcartimes.com/article.php?id=7266

Also in the S1600 class, 3 ATN/Team Ravenol Fiestas for Ulrike Krafft, Kevin Krammes and Paulo Necchi
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Petr FulĂ*nVekra Racing Team/Krenek MotorsportBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
Tim GaborRCM MotorsportPeugeot 407ConfirmedS2000
Ferenc FiczaXFX UnicorseAlfa Romeo 156ConfirmedS2000
Milenko VukovićVuković MotorsportaBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
Igor SkuzLiqui Moly Team EngstlerBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
tbaBorusan Otomotiv MotorsportBMW 320siConfirmedS2000
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Mato HomolaHomola MotorsportBMW 320siLikelyS2000
tbaProteam RacingBMW 320siLikelyS2000
Andreas PfisterPfister-RacingSEAT Leon SuperCopaConfirmed??
???Zest Racecar EngineeringSEAT Leon SuperCopaPossible??
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Alexander FrolovMaurer MotorsportChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
Vadim MeshecheriakovMaurer MotorsportChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
Wilson BorgninoMaurer MotorsportChevrolet AveoConfirmedS1600
Ulrike KrafftTeam Ravenol (ATM Racing)Ford FiestaConfirmedS1600
Kevin KrammesTeam Ravenol (ATM Racing)Ford FiestaConfirmedS1600
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ETCC ENTRY LIST
http://www.fiaetcc.com/html/uploaded...t_01_Monza.pdf

quite a suprise how many S1600 cars are entered
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quite a suprise how many S1600 cars are entered
Now if we can get 10 times longer races we are on the way back to the ETCC of old...
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Now if we can get 10 times longer races we are on the way back to the ETCC of old...
I support this notion! Seriously, I wonder why Lotti and the FIA haven't tried to do something like the Blancpain Endurance Series for touring cars. There are still enough S2000 cars to fill such a series.
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Jorrit, in Gábor Tim's name the "Gábor" is the first name, "Tim" is the last (family) name. The ETCC authors have looked wrong on the entry list. So correct way to write: Gábor Tim.
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I support this notion! Seriously, I wonder why Lotti and the FIA haven't tried to do something like the Blancpain Endurance Series for touring cars. There are still enough S2000 cars to fill such a series.
The problem with S2000s are the short intervalls between engine rebuilts... IIRC only 1500km for the BMW E90, so that would last about 2 weekends in a series of 500 kilometer races.

That said, they could easily put less stressed engines in those cars, like that one Belgian team did with their E90 that is powered by a 3.2l I-6.
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...actually quite good. Seriously low-budget Eurosport2 coverage (though MH is ok).

Don't know what Fulin was playin' at...
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