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View Poll Results: Who gets your vote?
Lewis Hamilton 10 29.41%
Max Verstappen 2 5.88%
Carlos Sainz 0 0%
Valtteri Bottas 0 0%
Esteban Ocon 0 0%
Lando Norris 17 50.00%
Alexander Albon 0 0%
Pierre Gasly 0 0%
Daniel Ricciardo 1 2.94%
Sebastian Vettel 0 0%
Charles Leclerc 0 0%
George Russell 0 0%
Lance Stroll 0 0%
Daniil Kvyat 0 0%
Kevin Magnussen 0 0%
Kimi Räikkönen 0 0%
Sergio Pérez 4 11.76%
Nicholas Latifi 0 0%
Antonio Giovinazzi 0 0%
Romain Grosjean 0 0%
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Old 14 Jul 2020, 13:08 (Ref:3988213)   #31
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Lewis blew everyone away in qualifying and dominated the race - but starting from the front in a Mercedes he was always going to do that. Was it a great race drive? No, not really. You got the impression that he really wasn't having to try very hard at all.


Sooo - Norris gets the vote mainly for the last lap opportunism. Good work from McLaren to switch the drivers, without that Norris wouldn't have got a far as he did.
Arguably Norris didn't have to try too hard on the last lap with the opportunism. I know what you mean about the race drive Hamilton had, though. I sometimes resist giving it to the winning driver on that basis, but sometimes I have to see past that.
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 09:00 (Ref:3988487)   #32
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I've always regarded the Grand Prix, as the whole weekend event. So when it comes to the "Driver of the Grand Prix" poll, I take into account qualifying.
Interesting - I see the Grand Prix as the race only. You're qualifying for the race - the 'big prize'. The 107% rule (and before that pre-qualifying) meant that sometimes a driver/team wouldn't get to take part in the Grand Prix - they'd take part in the Grand Prix weekend but not the Grand Prix itself.
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 14:14 (Ref:3988539)   #33
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Interesting - I see the Grand Prix as the race only. You're qualifying for the race - the 'big prize'. The 107% rule (and before that pre-qualifying) meant that sometimes a driver/team wouldn't get to take part in the Grand Prix - they'd take part in the Grand Prix weekend but not the Grand Prix itself.
Wasn't the 107% rule introduced to eliminate those cars/drivers, who were considerably slower than the rest of the field from the grid? Prior to its introduction, every entrant could qualify regardless of speed.

Doesn't a team have to enter the event first, before it can take part in free practice, qualifying and ultimately the race?

I came across this, after googling Formula One Grand Prix format.

https://www.tutorialspoint.com/formu...rix_format.htm
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 14:33 (Ref:3988544)   #34
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wouldn't be an F1 season without a debate on how one should vote on something that is very subjective. its nice that life is returning to normal.

for the record, i have absolutely no system for these votes relying entirely on my feelings. sometimes it follows the finishing order sometimes it focuses on one move or one lap and sometimes just because i am just happy for someone.

would be pretty boring if there was a clear cut metric we all had to apply.
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 15:19 (Ref:3988558)   #35
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When I first started going to The British Grand Prix in the late 70's we used to camp there, generally arriving the night before the F1 teams turned up. So, our first day would be spent watching the teams arrive & un-load the trucks & set up etc. Then there would be two days of free practice (for the F1 teams at least), followed by a day of timed practice sessions for all of the race meeting's races, finally came the big day when they hold the actual F1 race. So for me, the actual race itself was always just a small part of the Grand Prix to me
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 19:30 (Ref:3988597)   #36
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 19:49 (Ref:3988600)   #37
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For my record..., I have always voted based on driver merit and not on emotion. I have always focused on the race and driving skills. The best car does make a driver look good, but it takes an experienced F1 fan to recognize the merits of a good driver in a sub par car.

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Old 15 Jul 2020, 19:54 (Ref:3988602)   #38
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For my record..., I have always voted based on driver merit and not on emotion. I have always focused on the race and driving skills. The best car does make a driver look good, but it takes an experienced F1 fan to recognize the merits of a good driver in a sub par car.

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Not wanting to be rude Pete (as if!) but I would have suggested that some of your past nominations arguably placed emotion a tad in front of merit at times.....
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 20:25 (Ref:3988605)   #39
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I try to be democratic and give it to different drivers as often as possible
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Old 15 Jul 2020, 22:10 (Ref:3988610)   #40
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I think this topic comes up occasionally in the post event polls. There are no rules, so everyone plays it slightly differently. I am one of those who look at the entire weekend and not just the race itself. I also may pick a driver or team who did particularly well, even if they didn't win the race. My view is that the seasons points race does a good job of calling out those who win races. These polls can provide more flexibility.

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Old 16 Jul 2020, 04:19 (Ref:3988631)   #41
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wouldn't be an F1 season without a debate on how one should vote on something that is very subjective. its nice that life is returning to normal.

for the record, i have absolutely no system for these votes relying entirely on my feelings. sometimes it follows the finishing order sometimes it focuses on one move or one lap and sometimes just because i am just happy for someone.

would be pretty boring if there was a clear cut metric we all had to apply.
This^^^^

Plus my own votes have at times reflected personal favourites and preferences.*Shock horror*
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Prior to its introduction, every entrant could qualify regardless of speed.
True - but then qualifying is purely to determine your starting position for the Grand Prix.

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wouldn't be an F1 season without a debate on how one should vote on something that is very subjective. its nice that life is returning to normal.

would be pretty boring if there was a clear cut metric we all had to apply.
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True - but then qualifying is purely to determine your starting position for the Grand Prix.
Absolutely, it's just than in your previous post #32 you said "I see the Grand Prix as the race only. You're qualifying for the race - the 'big prize'". Are qualifying for the race and qualifying to determine the starting position for the Grand Prix the same thing?
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Personally I'm not fussed which way people look at it. I might look askance at a vote for a driver who qualifies on pole by a margin but who bins it on lap 1 being given DOTR, but who are we to judge? (Well, actually we do, all the time..... )
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Well i think of quali and the race as two separate things and consider that the race is the over riding point. This is grand prix racing not grand prix TT after all.
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