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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:03 (Ref:4243487)   #1826
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Should Huff remain then interest will be on 3rd and 4th seat . If TGR are prepared to stump up the finance then others will have to do same as Pearson and that may prove within reach of those like Thompson. 4th car though may need a bit more finance and a title sponsor . Similar to last year at WSR I can see entry continuing until season begins but may well see the car parked and unused unless those with bigger backing fancy it . Halstead and Sumpton possibly if they want to continue and bring the budget required .
Seats remain at Hyundai which won’t be cheap alternative and possibly PMR if Doble moves on .
Wasn't Nick Hamilton previously linked with a drive at Toyota (including bringing his own budget)? That could account for car number four.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:04 (Ref:4243488)   #1827
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I did hear a really left field rumour that Turkington may be looking at a TGR seat as BMW have massively scaled back on the WSR front (hence LKQ and MB entries). Personally, I can’t see that happening as Turks has been on the whole loyal to WSR throughout his career, whether it be with or without factory BMW/MG support.
I wondered re Turkington if he falls out of WSR reckoning. He’s too good to be on sidelines unless he views age as being against him (which it isn’t yet) obviously prefers RWD hence preferred place at BMW but would welcome him in a good FWD team .
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:22 (Ref:4243489)   #1828
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Bobby Thompson apparently working on a deal with Toyota, subject to finding the funding. TGR have full intentions on running all 4 cars despite losing a large chunk of budget with Moffat taking LKQ with him to WSR
If BT can find the budget he'd be a fantastic signing Thought TGR could possibly be a Doble landing spot too.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:27 (Ref:4243490)   #1829
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Be interesting now to see who takes the remaining seats and what One Motorsport do. Intriguing times ahead
I wonder if Proctor is going back to One. Would be a very solid pairing with Cook.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:28 (Ref:4243491)   #1830
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I did hear a really left field rumour that Turkington may be looking at a TGR seat as BMW have massively scaled back on the WSR front (hence LKQ and MB entries). Personally, I can’t see that happening as Turks has been on the whole loyal to WSR throughout his career, whether it be with or without factory BMW/MG support.
I wonder though at that point whether he would decide to call it quits and focus on his son’s career (as we ponder every year) - Speedworks certainly isn’t a bad seat but it’s a rung below WSR, and surely as a 4-time champion you’re not going to be happy with much below achieving another championship. Go out on a high with the team that’s family to him, or is the fun still there regardless? The likes of Plato continued for years.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 10:55 (Ref:4243493)   #1831
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Bobby Thompson apparently working on a deal with Toyota, subject to finding the funding. TGR have full intentions on running all 4 cars despite losing a large chunk of budget with Moffat taking LKQ with him to WSR
You've got me exiting now, I hope you are correct - thank you for the info.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 11:05 (Ref:4243494)   #1832
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Interestingly, Turkington's son is sponsored by Pete Osborne.
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Wasn't Nick Hamilton previously linked with a drive at Toyota (including bringing his own budget)? That could account for car number four.
He was indeed and Jade Edwards had a deal with them before being 'outbit' by others able to bring more funds. As so often seat to the highest bidder
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 13:09 (Ref:4243500)   #1834
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Interestingly, Turkington's son is sponsored by Pete Osborne.
Turkington to NAPA then? no but seriously I really hope Colin remains on the grid with WSR although somehow I feel the chances are getting slimmer and slimmer. He is still competitive and could have a crack for another two or three years, ideally to retire on his own terms, announcing it before his last season to have a proper farewell tour. But that's just wishful thinking, not sure if such things happen in the BTCC.
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 13:44 (Ref:4243501)   #1835
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Turkington to NAPA then? no but seriously I really hope Colin remains on the grid with WSR although somehow I feel the chances are getting slimmer and slimmer. He is still competitive and could have a crack for another two or three years, ideally to retire on his own terms, announcing it before his last season to have a proper farewell tour. But that's just wishful thinking, not sure if such things happen in the BTCC.
They did for Plato but he was able to bring a bit of money . His last year promised much but never delivered. Turks has much to offer and is well liked and respected in paddock so he could pop up elsewhere. Until WSR fill the remaining seat we won’t really know . Just about everyone currently without a seat , Toyota is possible . Although logic continues to link Cook with One he could still be considered at Toyota . Last year wasn’t huge success but maybe there was enough promise in the car team and potential development to make it attractive . He is still talking of a 2 year deal in a FWD car with ongoing potential .
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 14:08 (Ref:4243504)   #1836
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They did for Plato but he was able to bring a bit of money . His last year promised much but never delivered. Turks has much to offer and is well liked and respected in paddock so he could pop up elsewhere. Until WSR fill the remaining seat we won’t really know . Just about everyone currently without a seat , Toyota is possible . Although logic continues to link Cook with One he could still be considered at Toyota . Last year wasn’t huge success but maybe there was enough promise in the car team and potential development to make it attractive . He is still talking of a 2 year deal in a FWD car with ongoing potential .
Good thing for Turks is that he's got a good set of sponsors and probably wouldn't struggle for budget if he didn't re-sign with WSR. I must to say, it;s been a pretty intriguing off-season this year
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Old 4 Feb 2025, 14:21 (Ref:4243505)   #1837
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Providing money can be in place, I’d go out on a limb and say TGR will be Pearson, Thompson, Crees (both actively working on TGR deals) and then either Huff or the curveball of Turkington.

Would expect to see Cook at One motorsport with maybe Halstead? I wouldn’t be surprised to see them run a pair of customer Focus’ if the Civic doesn’t return
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I wouldn’t be surprised to see them run a pair of customer Focus’ if the Civic doesn’t return
Aye, the original 2 (built in 2020) were not used during 2024.... none of them seem to be currently crashed or damaged according to TC Register. (Though the car used by Sam Osborne in 2023 has had a rebuild at some stage)

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Old 4 Feb 2025, 22:57 (Ref:4243534)   #1839
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Good thing for Turks is that he's got a good set of sponsors and probably wouldn't struggle for budget if he didn't re-sign with WSR. I must to say, it;s been a pretty intriguing off-season this year
Although the rumour has been that he only had to bring a small amount (in comparison to others) over the last few years thanks to the desire for BMW UK to have him in the seat, one estimate was somewhere between £70-90k. I'm sure I saw in some rumours in the 22, 23 or 24 thread that it was £50k (I'm not going back to read through those - I'll see my own predictions that were way wide of the mark!)

If true, then he's a few steps behind the rest of the frontrunners to bring in new sponsors. Going from raising less than £100K (if true) to a full budget to switch to FWD in a car that won't be a championship contender. I think if Turks isn't in a BMW he won't be on the BTCC grid. It'd be easier for him to finds a TCR UK budget of £60-80k plus an extra £40k for his wages!
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Bobby Thompson apparently working on a deal with Toyota, subject to finding the funding. TGR have full intentions on running all 4 cars despite losing a large chunk of budget with Moffat taking LKQ with him to WSR
Any word on Rory Butcher returning from his sabbatical?
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Any word on Rory Butcher returning from his sabbatical?
Personally, I think the ship has sailed, I hope in wrong because he’s a good driver, always there or there abouts in the mix
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Personally, I think the ship has sailed, I hope in wrong because he’s a good driver, always there or there abouts in the mix

He may have been a good driver, however he became or instigated too many incidents with other cars in his last couple of seasons.
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He may have been a good driver, however he became or instigated too many incidents with other cars in his last couple of seasons.
I used to enjoy the inter family battles between Butcher and Sheddon and both were looked up to by younger Scot drivers . Sadly both now seem in the past although they probably have speed to challenge at times . Butcher has been advisor and manager to others and that seems his role . Historic classes could be fun if you had a class for ex BTCC drivers .
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It would be a shame if Turkington doesn't make the grid , be a weird way for a legend of the series to bow out, but I could understand it with his son's career and perhaps being at the stage in his career where he doesn't want to be running around trying to raise extra budget.

If he's "available" I'm sure Excler8 and Speedworks would ask the question.
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Personally, I think the ship has sailed, I hope in wrong because he’s a good driver, always there or there abouts in the mix
He seemed very competitive in the AmD Honda in 2019 and the Motorbase Ford in 2020, but then faded into the background a bit in the Speedworks Toyota in 2021-22, and particularly in 2023, like a few others have. I wonder if the Toyota Corolla has just never been particularly fast. I hope Butcher comes back, I think he might be around the level of Turkington, Cammish and Cook, at this stage of their careers.
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knockhill is in the black by a fair bit, but for rory or flash or even jillian to go racing means losing a key team member for the busiest part of the year meaning a replacement has to be found and paid for. then you have the race budget to come out of the pot, plus would rory or flash even want to commit to a year on the road, opposed to working, earning and being home every night. Doesn't matter the job, living and working out a rucsac loses its appeal after a while
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WSR teasing on Instagram what I can only assume to be the filming for Jake Hill's livery announcement given I'd assume you won't see the LKQ colours until they have the 2nd car sorted and DeLeon was looking for a title sponsor.
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WSR teasing on Instagram what I can only assume to be the filming for Jake Hill's livery announcement given I'd assume you won't see the LKQ colours until they have the 2nd car sorted and DeLeon was looking for a title sponsor.
I've noticed that DeLeon is almost daily advertising a title sponsor slot still. Makes you wonder, is it just recouping cash, or could they end up short?
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I've noticed that DeLeon is almost daily advertising a title sponsor slot still. Makes you wonder, is it just recouping cash, or could they end up short?

That doesn’t make sense if he apparently already had the funding for the seat
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That doesn’t make sense if he apparently already had the funding for the seat
It makes absolute sense.

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Driver still pays 40k for the seat, and retains the additional 20k for their own 'salary'.
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