Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 22 Jan 2025, 16:16 (Ref:4241973)   #26
Richard C
Veteran
 
Richard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
United States
Posts: 6,326
Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by BertMk2 View Post
Interesting that Ferrari used an F40 rather than one of their current lineup - an admission that the current range is a bit "meh" and lacks anything with a wow factor?
Appropriate pairing... Old driver, old car.

Seriously, I wonder if they might have shot him with multiple cars and just felt the F40 looked best (to your point).

Richard
Richard C is offline  
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one."
Quote
Old 23 Jan 2025, 13:35 (Ref:4242032)   #27
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,974
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
The FIA has introduced new guidelines for misconduct violations, including swearing.


https://www.skysports.com/f1/news/12...rmula-1-season
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 27 Jan 2025, 11:24 (Ref:4242780)   #28
porsche962fan
Veteran
 
porsche962fan's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 4,637
porsche962fan should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridporsche962fan should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
maybe all drivers and team bosses should collectively swear at every possible occasion to make a point

enough with the wannabe dictator
porsche962fan is offline  
Quote
Old 27 Jan 2025, 12:00 (Ref:4242783)   #29
Born Racer
Race Official
Veteran
 
Born Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,187
Born Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Not being able to make political statements? Oh dear - how on earth are they going to control what constitutes political? That opens up plenty of potential for more sportswashing.
Born Racer is offline  
Quote
Old 28 Jan 2025, 06:37 (Ref:4242837)   #30
Skam85
Veteran
 
Skam85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
Wherever the next race is
Posts: 3,013
Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Born Racer View Post
Not being able to make political statements? Oh dear - how on earth are they going to control what constitutes political? That opens up plenty of potential for more sportswashing.

You said sportswashing. That's political. Threadbanned. Sorry I don't make the rules, take it up with the FIA.

Wonder if they'll make Lewis take the rainbow off his helmet.
Skam85 is offline  
__________________
Part time wingman, full time spud.
Quote
Old 28 Jan 2025, 10:14 (Ref:4242851)   #31
greentrumpet
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 236
greentrumpet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgreentrumpet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
You really do seem a bit obsessed with Lewis.
greentrumpet is offline  
Quote
Old 28 Jan 2025, 21:12 (Ref:4242904)   #32
Skam85
Veteran
 
Skam85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
Wherever the next race is
Posts: 3,013
Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!
Yes, I'm the only person in the entire world that mentions Lewis Hamilton.
Skam85 is offline  
__________________
Part time wingman, full time spud.
Quote
Old 29 Jan 2025, 16:51 (Ref:4242979)   #33
Born Racer
Race Official
Veteran
 
Born Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 9,187
Born Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skam85 View Post
You said sportswashing. That's political. Threadbanned. Sorry I don't make the rules, take it up with the FIA.


Quote:
Wonder if they'll make Lewis take the rainbow off his helmet.
This is the kind of grey (or rainbow-coloured) area they enter when they say you can't be political anymore.
Born Racer is offline  
Quote
Old 29 Jan 2025, 21:58 (Ref:4243000)   #34
Skam85
Veteran
 
Skam85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
Wherever the next race is
Posts: 3,013
Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Born Racer View Post


This is the kind of grey (or rainbow-coloured) area they enter when they say you can't be political anymore.
that's exactly what I mean, once the FIA pull the "no politics" card, you pull that string and almost any opinion on anything is political these days.
Skam85 is offline  
__________________
Part time wingman, full time spud.
Quote
Old 30 Jan 2025, 07:49 (Ref:4243026)   #35
S griffin
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 19,027
S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!S griffin is going for a new world record!
It's stupid how MBS is going about this. Not only is this gagging drivers, but how do you police it? Where do you draw the line? It's so unnecessary
S griffin is offline  
__________________
He who dares wins!
He who hesitates is lost!
Quote
Old 30 Jan 2025, 19:31 (Ref:4243091)   #36
Tourer
Veteran
 
Tourer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Australia
Sideways
Posts: 4,781
Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!
Details of realignment and runoff changes at turn 6 Albert Park have been released.

Sounds good that they've kept the corner pretty much "as is" from a driver point of view but mitigated the possibility of bouncing back onto the track after a shunt.
Tourer is offline  
__________________
“We’re far from having too much horsepower…[m]y definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.” ― Mark Donohue
Quote
Old 30 Jan 2025, 22:03 (Ref:4243108)   #37
Skam85
Veteran
 
Skam85's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
Wherever the next race is
Posts: 3,013
Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!Skam85 has a real shot at the championship!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tourer View Post
Details of realignment and runoff changes at turn 6 Albert Park have been released.

Sounds good that they've kept the corner pretty much "as is" from a driver point of view but mitigated the possibility of bouncing back onto the track after a shunt.
They also added a new grandstand there and released tickets on Wednesday due to ticket demands!

Having only had a Friday ticket I queued online at 12pm and managed to get 6 tickets for Saturday.

By the time I checked out about 5mins later almost the entire set of four stands were sold out. Insane demand for tickets but it's cool. Will be a good viewing spot that new stand.
Skam85 is offline  
__________________
Part time wingman, full time spud.
Quote
Old 30 Jan 2025, 22:13 (Ref:4243110)   #38
Tourer
Veteran
 
Tourer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2003
Australia
Sideways
Posts: 4,781
Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!Tourer is going for a new lap record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Skam85 View Post
They also added a new grandstand there and released tickets on Wednesday due to ticket demands!

Having only had a Friday ticket I queued online at 12pm and managed to get 6 tickets for Saturday.

By the time I checked out about 5mins later almost the entire set of four stands were sold out. Insane demand for tickets but it's cool. Will be a good viewing spot that new stand.
It sure will be a good viewing spot - they go hard through there.

Yeah, the level of demand is full-bore, my nephews got in by the skin of their teeth, less than a half hour after tickets went on sale.
Tourer is offline  
__________________
“We’re far from having too much horsepower…[m]y definition of too much horsepower is when all four wheels are spinning in every gear.” ― Mark Donohue
Quote
Old 2 Feb 2025, 20:06 (Ref:4243406)   #39
Guthrie
Racer
 
Join Date: Nov 2023
United States
Atlanta
Posts: 108
Guthrie should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
What are your thoughts on this?

Guthrie is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 00:12 (Ref:4243417)   #40
broadrun96
Veteran
 
broadrun96's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
United States
Posts: 12,397
broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!broadrun96 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guthrie View Post
What are your thoughts on this?

Way to completely misunderstand the market he has, instead let's bring in more less fun, more starch Georgie and his crying. Fully checks out for MB and why they're the least likable after Red Bull management albeit for a different more destructive reason there
broadrun96 is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 14:44 (Ref:4243444)   #41
greentrumpet
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 236
greentrumpet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridgreentrumpet should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
Mercedes don't like showing they're cocks? Sorry their, perhaps.
greentrumpet is offline  
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 17:00 (Ref:4243454)   #42
Richard C
Veteran
 
Richard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
United States
Posts: 6,326
Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Guthrie View Post
What are your thoughts on this?
Bottas doing his thing is fun and not sterile, but...

Bottas is hanging on for his F1 career. He is a reserve not primary driver. Bottas is part of Mercedes, not Mercedes part of Bottas. Is anyone shocked that Mercedes wants to project a specific image that might not be aligned with what Bottas wants? Mercedes is not stamping out ALL of his recent wackiness, but is drawing some lines.

I think it's mostly a "slow news day" story.

Richard
Richard C is offline  
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one."
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 17:32 (Ref:4243456)   #43
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 10,170
chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!
slow news day for sure lol!

butt did Merc actually 'Ban' him from doing it? its a benign butt calendar for charity/mens health awareness...are Merc really that afraid of drivers talking in public that they would tell one of their people that using their celebrity to raise money for cancer research is a butt too far?

everything in the news is ass backwards these days so i guess its possible?
chillibowl is online now  
__________________
Home, is where I want to be but I guess I'm already there
I come home, she lifted up her wings guess that this must be the place
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 17:54 (Ref:4243457)   #44
Richard C
Veteran
 
Richard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
United States
Posts: 6,326
Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by chillibowl View Post
slow news day for sure lol!

butt did Merc actually 'Ban' him from doing it? its a benign butt calendar for charity/mens health awareness...are Merc really that afraid of drivers talking in public that they would tell one of their people that using their celebrity to raise money for cancer research is a butt too far?

everything in the news is ass backwards these days so i guess its possible?
I think this is the source for that topic...

https://racingnews365.com/mercedes-i...ullet-survives

Quote:
The 35-year-old also released a nude calendar, a move that raised $150,000 for charity in 2023, after photos of his naked behind went viral on social media.

That, however, might be a step too far for Mercedes, which is a more corporate entity than the Stake team Bottas has just departed.

Wolff insists he wants his new test and reserve driver to remain his authentic self, which includes his effervescent use of social media, but maintains there will have to be limits to that.

"We are Mercedes, so maybe the nude calendar is not on anymore," Wolff told RacingNews365. "So we've said that, but we need to keep him authentic.

"And if he wants to keep the ugly mullet, then he should," he added with a grin.
So... "some" restrictions on how he presents himself to the public to ensure alignment with the image Mercedes wants to present.

Richard
Richard C is offline  
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one."
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 18:26 (Ref:4243460)   #45
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 10,170
chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!
sounds like they dont want him to do it but also dont want to be made to have to say it outloud.

a little spineless but fair enough. a donation in place of it would have been nice tho.
chillibowl is online now  
__________________
Home, is where I want to be but I guess I'm already there
I come home, she lifted up her wings guess that this must be the place
Quote
Old 3 Feb 2025, 19:27 (Ref:4243461)   #46
Richard C
Veteran
 
Richard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
United States
Posts: 6,326
Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by chillibowl View Post
sounds like they dont want him to do it but also dont want to be made to have to say it outloud.

a little spineless but fair enough. a donation in place of it would have been nice tho.
My 2 cents is that as an employer, Mercedes owes nobody an explanation as to specifics to employment agreements other than to those bound by the agreement. The world is not owed nude Bottas photos.

With that said, Toto was asked the question and he answered. I don't think they are hiding or have any reason to hide. And to me, they seem to gave Bottas plenty of flexibility. Is the only way that Bottas can raise money via nude calendars? I sure hope not. Is Mercedes saying "You are prohibited from any efforts in trying to raise money for charity" or just "No nudity". I am not prudish, but is it really an issue that an employer is asking a public facing employee not to sell nude photos of themselves (even if for a good cause) as doing so doesn't align with his employers public marketing persona?

Stake/Kick already has a terrible image. So they probably couldn't have cared less.

Richard

Last edited by Richard C; 3 Feb 2025 at 19:53.
Richard C is offline  
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one."
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2025, 15:42 (Ref:4243508)   #47
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 10,170
chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard C View Post
but is it really an issue that an employer is asking a public facing employee not to sell nude photos of themselves (even if for a good cause) as doing so doesn't align with his employers public marketing persona?
not an issue for me, but if its an issue for them then maybe dont hire a guy whose current public facing persona has basically been to show off pictures of his backside? pun unintended, but thats literally his thing!

obviously tho this is such a trivial issue its silly to even be talking about...but for me, i guess because they/Merc are the ones talking about it, i find them all the sillier for it.
chillibowl is online now  
__________________
Home, is where I want to be but I guess I'm already there
I come home, she lifted up her wings guess that this must be the place
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2025, 18:53 (Ref:4243519)   #48
Richard C
Veteran
 
Richard C's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2009
United States
Posts: 6,326
Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!Richard C is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by chillibowl View Post
not an issue for me, but if its an issue for them then maybe dont hire a guy whose current public facing persona has basically been to show off pictures of his backside? pun unintended, but thats literally his thing!
I get the fan concern. Frankly, I think they should let him do it. You wonder if it was a decision taken at the Mercedes level of just Wolff acting in a way that he thinks "protects" the team's image. As to Bottas being wronged, for all we know he is ecstatic with the situation. That not doing the nude images is fine given where he is. The alternative could be... not in F1 and and just doing nude calendars/OnlyFans. (yes, I know the images are tastefully done).

Quote:
Originally Posted by chillibowl View Post
obviously tho this is such a trivial issue its silly to even be talking about...but for me, i guess because they/Merc are the ones talking about it, i find them all the sillier for it.
I don't think Mercedes brought up the issue. I think Wolff was asked.

It is a silly issue, but what else can we talk about. It seems F1 news is dead right now. We could be talking about MBS potentially complaining about the "inappropriate" names of F1 personnel. Such as Mike Krack and Richard Wood (Lawson's new engineering). Note... I didn't think of this, but stole that from Reddit. But it shows how little there is in "real and interesting F1 news" to talk about right now and how low we have sunk. Poop jokes are next.

Richard
Richard C is offline  
__________________
To paraphrase Mark Twain... "I'm sorry I wrote such a long post; I didn't have time to write a short one."
Quote
Old 4 Feb 2025, 22:51 (Ref:4243532)   #49
bathurst77
Veteran
 
bathurst77's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Australia
Biding my time in Vandemonia
Posts: 1,294
bathurst77 has a real shot at the podium!bathurst77 has a real shot at the podium!bathurst77 has a real shot at the podium!bathurst77 has a real shot at the podium!bathurst77 has a real shot at the podium!
Im still annoyed that given Bottas love of Australia and "honorary bogan" status, and that Mercedes AMG are big in the bathurst 12 hour race, that we didnt see him on the mountain last weekend.

With his initials there is even a perfect sponsor, (which was on another car)

Bogan holy water!

bathurst77 is offline  
__________________
Bathurst 1977, best day of my childhood
Worst thing ever to happen to Ford Aust Motorsport.
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[BTCC] BTCC News & Rumours 2025 rdjones Touring Car Racing 1851 Yesterday 18:57
[LM24] Le Mans 2025 - 14/15 June 2025 - Who is Going? Aysedasi 24 Heures du Mans 106 15 Dec 2024 20:30
[BTCC] BTCC 2020 season discussion, News and Rumours! sceptic Touring Car Racing 8061 9 Dec 2020 21:01
BTCC 2019 season discussion, News and Rumours! Northern Monkey Touring Car Racing 5462 1 Oct 2019 07:17
FIA F2 - 2019 Pre Season news and rumours JD Media National & International Single Seaters 53 25 Jun 2019 22:29


All times are GMT. The time now is 05:34.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.