BTCC 2010 rumour mill - Page 34

kezza7 · 18 Feb 2010, 13:36 (Ref:2635600)

Either RML are going for no BTCC or definetely Cruzes for next season, http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...tti_S2000.html

Also if Dynamics use this paint scheme, as Twitter told me they might, i will, OMG

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload...Type-R2007.jpg

James Mappin · 18 Feb 2010, 14:37 (Ref:2635659)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezza7

Also if Dynamics use this paint scheme, as Twitter told me they might, i will, OMG

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload...Type-R2007.jpg

Team Dynamics are NOT pairing up with Mugen like the press release suggested according to Steve Neal.

Also that livery is that of JAS Motorsport and one of the Rally Civics.

Lots of speculations flying around and all very confusing as everyone saying different things.

Jamesy-18 · 18 Feb 2010, 15:27 (Ref:2635678)

Interesting on the sale of the Lacettis. I hope that means good news with the Cruzes rather than bad news and no RML in 2010.

GroupOfOne · 18 Feb 2010, 16:12 (Ref:2635703)

Quote:

Originally Posted by James Mappin

Team Dynamics are NOT pairing up with Mugen like the press release suggested according to Steve Neal.

In today's Autosport it says that the engines definitely won't be Mugen prepped, but will still be Neil Brown engines.

I don't think there'll be much difference from last year, apart from maybe some Honda stickers in place of previous sponsors and a new colour scheme. They're not going to suddenly become works team in the sense we saw in the Super Touring or Vauxhall eras.

Anyway, at the end of the day it's two cars on the grid so does it matter if they're works / factory / semi-work / privateer / one-fifth works or whatever. They will no doubt go at least reasonably well and have at least one top grade driver so all's good. Still gives us something to discuss I suppose!

Redlake27 · 18 Feb 2010, 17:00 (Ref:2635724)

Quote:

Originally Posted by privateer

The NGTC engine is not an easy fit in anything the cost to put the engine in a Vauxhaul are over £20k and thats a vauxhall engine in a vauxhaull!!

There are issues trying to get one in a Leon not unsurmountable issues but costly

My guess most will just wait till the ngtc car rules are announced and build from there

Why they are using a 10 yearold GM engine is beyond me when the SEat engine is 75% cheaper of the shelf in spain !!

Teams don't have to use the TOCA NGTC engine, they can develop their own.

A specified TOCA turbo, wastegate, intercoolers, injectors and ECU must be used, but the block can be from the original model (or related brand)....

.... So a Leon could use a VAG TFSI engine with TOCA turbo+ancillaries.

redshoes · 18 Feb 2010, 18:04 (Ref:2635756)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezza7

Also if Dynamics use this paint scheme, as Twitter told me they might, i will, OMG

http://www.automobilsport.com/upload...Type-R2007.jpg

But who posted it on Twitter, official source or just an over-keen fan?

Filename is a bit of a giveaway, it's a 3 year old show car.

Jamesy-18 · 18 Feb 2010, 18:17 (Ref:2635762)

Good old Twitter. It tells me lots of things too. Things that most often are incorrect. :P

Icebaby · 18 Feb 2010, 19:31 (Ref:2635801)

Quote:

Originally Posted by GroupOfOne

Anyway, at the end of the day it's two cars on the grid so does it matter if they're works / factory / semi-work / privateer / one-fifth works or whatever. They will no doubt go at least reasonably well and have at least one top grade driver so all's good. Still gives us something to discuss I suppose!

If I were Honda I would not be looking at Matt Neal or Johnny Herbert in the cars, there are far better available and less of a risk.

trebor901 · 18 Feb 2010, 19:36 (Ref:2635803)

Matt Neal has only used that driving style since he joined Vauxhall in 2007 with the Civic he was fine and in 2006 and 2005 before that.

privateer · 18 Feb 2010, 21:18 (Ref:2635867)

Teams don't have to use the TOCA NGTC engine, they can develop their own.

A specified TOCA turbo, wastegate, intercoolers, injectors and ECU must be used, but the block can be from the original model (or related brand)....

.... So a Leon could use a VAG TFSI engine with TOCA turbo+ancillaries.

Yes they can in 2013 !! but not until then its the NGTC engine only til 2013

tin-top fan · 18 Feb 2010, 22:31 (Ref:2635908)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kezza7

Either RML are going for no BTCC or definetely Cruzes for next season, http://www.racecarsdirect.com/listin...tti_S2000.html

I point you to this article in touringcartimes a while ago http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4233 . As it says, the swedish chevrolet team are struggling to buy cruzes, as last years wtcc works cruzes have been bought by the btcc team.

Spanner monkey · 19 Feb 2010, 20:05 (Ref:2636521)

What about Matt neal & James Thompson at dynamics! & befor you say Thommo is sighned up & very busy - apparentley he's not that busy & is free for the BTCC rounds

emicen · 19 Feb 2010, 20:21 (Ref:2636537)

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Originally Posted by Jamesy-18

Drawn up a list of confirmed/expected/rumoured.

Confirmed

Martin Depper-Forster Motorsport-BMW 320si
Arthur Forster-Forster Motorsport-BMW 320si

Lea Wood-Team Wood-Honda Intergra

Dave Pinkney-Pinkney Motorsport-Vauxhall Vectra

Andrew Jordan-Team Pirtek-Vauxhall Vectra

Paul O'Neill-Sunshine with TechSpeed-Honda Integra
John George-Sunshine with TechSpeed-Honda Integra

?-Thorney Motorsport-Vauxhall Insignia (built to NGTC rules, late campaign ahead of '11)

Tom Chilton-Team AON-Ford Focus (more manufacturer backing?)
? (Tom Onslow-Cole?)-Team AON-Ford Focus (more manufacturer backing?)

Shaun Hollamby-Team AmD-VW Golf
Simon Shaw-Team AmD-VW Golf? (Trying to raise funds for selected rounds)

Tom Boardman-Special Tuning UK-SEAT Leon TFSI

Expected

Colin Turkington-Team WSR-BMW 320si (No RAC title sponsorship, Alvara now. Colin is rumoured to want a deal with WSR over any else)

Stephen Jelley-Team WSR-BMW 320si (Confirmed intentions at Autosport International, should be there funds permitting)

? (Alan Blencowe?)-Sunshine with TechSpeed-Honda Integra ("Humphries also confirmed the team is currently in talks with a second driver and that it has capacity to run a third Integra..." although maybe not straight away in the season)

Jason Plato-RML/Team Silverline-Chevrolet Cruze (All but confirmed)
Mat Jackson-RML/Team Silverline-Chevrolet Cruze (Likely to be kept, funds permitting)

Rob Collard-Team Motorbase-BMW 320si (Deal reportedly close according to AUTOSPORT)
? (Adam/Kane/Bridgeman/Glew?)-Team Motorbase-BMW 320si (Team have intentions to run a second car)

Matt Neal-Team Dynamics-Honda Civic (Deal reportedly close, more Honda backing?)
? (Johnny Herbert)-Honda Civic (Hebert wants full campaign. More Honda backing?)

Adam Jones-Team Aircool-SEAT Leon? (Return to own team in Leon? Chance of Special Tuning UK seat?)

? (Gordon Shedden?)-Special Tuning UK-SEAT Leon TFSI (Team has ambitions to run second car, and "expects to sign a (second) driver within the next few weeks.")

? (Fabrizio Giovanardi?)-Triple 8-Vauxhall Vectra (Tripe 8 confirm intentions to return with one Vauxhall Vectra)

Phil Glew-?-? (Reportedly in talks with Motorbase. However, didn't rule out running own team)

Rumoured

?-IF Motorsport-Abarth Grande Punto (confirmed intentions, may miss first round-car not eligible?)
?-IF Motorsport-Abarth Grande Punto (confirmed intentions, may miss first round-car not eligible?)

? (Anthony Reid/Andy Neate?)-WSR-BMW 320si (Intentions to run third car? Ceravision decals on new livery, link to Neate over Reid?)

?-Team Parker-BMW 320si (Reportedly looking to enter BTCC as well as PCCGB)

? (Alex McDowell?)-RML-Chevrolet Lacetti (Lacetti to be run alongside the two Cruzes?)

?-Team AON-Ford Focus (chance for a 3rd car?)

?-?-Honda Integra? (George's old car is now sold, will we see it in BTCC in 2010?)

Martin Johnson-Team Boulevard-? (Could be back with newer car)

Paul Luti-?-MG ZS? (Rumours that he has bought one of Hughes' ZS)

Jason Hughes-Team Kartworld-MG ZS (Still owns car, plans to come back next season? Team site is down however)

Ginetta G50 champion, Nathan Freke, is also hopeful of a ride in 2010.

Volvo/KIA/VW? (All rumoured before, all rumoured again)

Paul Luti and Dreadnought are not entering the BTCC this year due to funding.

[Ref: www.racethemg.com]

**touringlegend** · 19 Feb 2010, 20:26 (Ref:2636541)

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Originally Posted by Spanner monkey

What about Matt neal & James Thompson at dynamics! & befor you say Thommo is sighned up & very busy - apparentley he's not that busy & is free for the BTCC rounds

I didn't think that sounded right and checked back the Touringcartimes article from January - it states there is 6 clashes between DTC and BTCC..

http://www.touringcartimes.com/news.php?id=4337

Unless you know something different and Thommo's going to drop everything for a Honda UK paycheque?

rdjones · 19 Feb 2010, 22:04 (Ref:2636624)

I understand that WSR (along with Dynamics) where test at Thruxton today with Turkington and Andy Neate doing the drive, I also understand that Stephen Jelly was there watching.

**touringlegend** · 19 Feb 2010, 22:20 (Ref:2636638)

Alex MacDowall and Turkington also drove for WSR. Few more teams tested as well.

Full details on the btcc site..
http://btcc.net/html/generalnews_detail.php?id=1820

Craner Curves · 19 Feb 2010, 22:34 (Ref:2636648)

Yes, I understood that link earlier. Sorry, read it earlier.

trebor901 · 19 Feb 2010, 22:40 (Ref:2636651)

damn, if i'd have known i'd have gone up there for a quick look i work literally 15 mins away

PDS · 20 Feb 2010, 00:18 (Ref:2636688)

Images from Thruxton can be found here.. www.psp-images.co.uk

tin-top fan · 20 Feb 2010, 12:06 (Ref:2636964)

Anyone else notice the band of red/blue/green/yellow that all drivers now seem to be carrying at the top of their windcreen? Anyone know the reasoning behind it?

see here, http://www.touringcartimes.com/picture.php?id=4423 on the right of the windscreen strip and here http://www.touringcartimes.com/news/btcc10022002-b.jpg ) between the windscreen and front door.

PDS · 20 Feb 2010, 12:28 (Ref:2636981)

All cars that were on track had them!

Something to do with noise checks and other checks before the car was allowed on track I believe.

brands · 20 Feb 2010, 15:08 (Ref:2637108)

Quote:

Originally Posted by tin-top fan

Anyone else notice the band of red/blue/green/yellow that all drivers now seem to be carrying at the top of their windcreen? Anyone know the reasoning behind it?

see here, http://www.touringcartimes.com/picture.php?id=4423 on the right of the windscreen strip and here http://www.touringcartimes.com/news/btcc10022002-b.jpg ) between the windscreen and front door.

Looking through my photos from yesterday I assume they are identification marks for each of the 4 test sessions.

**touringlegend** · 20 Feb 2010, 15:33 (Ref:2637119)

How has Matt Neal managed to get tyre marks on a test day ?

brands · 20 Feb 2010, 15:36 (Ref:2637120)

Quote:

Originally Posted by touringlegend

How has Matt Neal managed to get tyre marks on a test day ?

He had a tangle with a Ginetta junior at the complex

davyboy · 20 Feb 2010, 15:58 (Ref:2637132)

Quote:

Originally Posted by touringlegend

How has Matt Neal managed to get tyre marks on a test day ?

Snap ! I was thinking exactly the same myself. He doesn't do himself and his reputation any favours, does he.

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