Would you give Verstappen a race seat?

Sodemo · 12 Feb 2006, 20:30 (Ref:1521240)

Just watching the A1GP and Verstappen is amazing, he has overtaken about 6 cars so far in this race, a real racer, was he overlooked while in F1?

Does he deserve another crack at the whip, or has his chance come and gone?

Suze · 12 Feb 2006, 20:40 (Ref:1521249)

No imo....chance come and gone. He never shone for me in F1.

**FIRE** · 12 Feb 2006, 20:42 (Ref:1521250)

Please no, F1 is boring. I prefer to see him racing in A1GP.

ryan7727 · 12 Feb 2006, 20:44 (Ref:1521253)

verstappen or "king of the gravel traps" as he is otherwise known, has well and truly had his time in F1, albeit with backmarker teams. He must hold some sort of record for being the only driver to have driven for Minardi, Jordan, Arrows and whoever else was offering a top class drive at the back of the grid...!

kipper · 12 Feb 2006, 20:50 (Ref:1521260)

To be fair, Verstappen turned in a number of impressive performances in F1; Argentina '95 and '96 and Malaysia '01 springing to my mind. However, in my view these performances were infrequent and often bracketed by erratic moments, which in my opinion means that F1 is well and truly over for Jos.

ryan7727 · 12 Feb 2006, 20:55 (Ref:1521270)

true, he did play a blinder on occasions and to be fair he never had worthwhile machinery

BSchneiderFan · 12 Feb 2006, 21:34 (Ref:1521312)

Perhaps five years ago he would have shone if given the chance of a top-line drive (and remember there were rumours he would replace Irvine at Ferrari). But now, he has nothing especially dramatic to offer an F1 team. There are better drivers and younger drivers and some better, younger drivers around.

ASCII Man · 12 Feb 2006, 21:34 (Ref:1521313)

I think his talents have been gone to waste at back end teams, he showed promise in his early years, especially at Simtek, and occasionally at Arrows TWR in 1996 so I think he merited a place in a top midfield team moreso than the likes of Minardi, Arrows and Simtek.

He has never raced for Jordan AFAIK.

JeremySmith · 12 Feb 2006, 23:28 (Ref:1521397)

What age is Jos Verstappen now?

ASCII Man · 12 Feb 2006, 23:30 (Ref:1521399)

34-35 Iirc.

JeremySmith · 12 Feb 2006, 23:33 (Ref:1521404)

Right thank you....He has had some *good* moments in F1, but at that age he is too old would you not say?

JohnSSC · 13 Feb 2006, 00:10 (Ref:1521418)

Ahhh! Another rite of Silly Season! The "Give Jos another chance thread!"

JohnSSC anxiously looks at calendar to count days until March 12...

karimbo · 13 Feb 2006, 02:00 (Ref:1521469)

He is still younger than JV and DC. They have been having second (third, fourth...) chances forever now.

In the rain Jos is an absolute master. After just a single season in F3 in 1993, (he won the championship) he began his F1 career in '94: his team mate was Scumacher. Even veterans like Barrichello, Irvine, Herbert, Brundle and Piquet looked bad next to Kaiser Michael.

Jos was the one Honda picked to develop their F1 car. Then they decided to join Villeneuve and Craig Pollock at BAR. We're still waiting for the first win...

There is an expression: to be at the right place at the right time... that was the case for Damon Hill and Jacques Villeneuve. It wasn't the case for Jos, neither for Zanardi or for Jan Magnussen. In competitive series (everyone with more or less the same material: Karting, Formula 3) they really stood out. In Formula One, where a Newey-designed car makes all the difference some pretty average drivers became world champions...

dsg · 13 Feb 2006, 05:29 (Ref:1521522)

I think we may need a nurse in here.

ensign14 · 13 Feb 2006, 05:48 (Ref:1521529)

After taking Parente out with some loutish driving, no way.

Big-O · 13 Feb 2006, 07:12 (Ref:1521552)

No way ... Never bin a fan of Jos "the Fist of Fury" Verstappen, and probably never will be

Ok he's bin driving for teams like Minardi, Arrows, Simtek ... And for a good reason, he dosen't have what it takes for a topdrive.

And, Lost boys don't have enough money to buy him a seat there ....

mjolnir · 13 Feb 2006, 08:32 (Ref:1521581)

Quote:

Originally Posted by kipper

To be fair, Verstappen turned in a number of impressive performances in F1; Argentina '95 and '96 and Malaysia '01 springing to my mind. However, in my view these performances were infrequent and often bracketed by erratic moments, which in my opinion means that F1 is well and truly over for Jos.

Think this coupled with his up-down performances of A! thus far speaks volumes as to why F1 bosses wouldn't bat an eyelid... But you're right, I think Jos is good for A1

Korr · 13 Feb 2006, 13:50 (Ref:1521795)

No, no, no.

Thanks Verstappen, Jos!

BootsOntheSide · 13 Feb 2006, 16:25 (Ref:1521885)

Jos has had his day really. He was on the grid for most of a decade, and didn't do an awful lot to shine in that time - one or two impressive races a year arent' enough to merit a place. He's lost to the only really good team-mates he ever had, and not convincingly beaten anybody bar Magnussen and Rosset.

b1ackcr0w · 13 Feb 2006, 16:40 (Ref:1521895)

I think all the best drives of his career were emasculated by average or below par cars.

If the question is, are there 24 better drivers than Verstappen currently eligible for F1? Yes, I think there are.
Have all of them got '06 racing drives in F1? Definitely not.
Is Verstappen better than some drivers in F1 06 racing seats? Without any doubt.

I reckon Verstappen is just one of a big list of Drivers where the advertising qudos and marketability factor in F1 has skewed their career despite their ability behind the wheel.

Formula John · 13 Feb 2006, 17:59 (Ref:1521941)

No F1 team manager could afford Jos'.......accident damage!

slicktoast · 14 Feb 2006, 00:34 (Ref:1522230)

Yeah, if it were attached to a DTM machine.

Mark Webber · 14 Feb 2006, 01:08 (Ref:1522239)

I think Jos is driving great but I think if any driver deserves another crack its Alex Young or Ralf Firman both of these guys have shown race after race good form Jos has been great only over a couple races

Ryo28 · 14 Feb 2006, 11:55 (Ref:1522498)

Quote:

Originally Posted by BootsOntheSide

He's lost to the only really good team-mates he ever had, and not convincingly beaten anybody bar Magnussen and Rosset.

I thought he replaced Magnussen at Stewart, rather than raced against him? Also he did outperform "Mimmo" Schiattarella at Simtek in 1995, and matched De la Rosa and Bernoldi in successive seasons at Arrows in '00 -'01, although obviously none of them did very much in F1 either! I can't see Jos getting another chance, I don't think he particularly merits it and he has already had so called 'last chances' at Arrows and Minardi, although it would have been interesting to see him in the '99 Jordan (he was in line to replace Damon Hill had he decided to retire midway through the season IIRC)

maximus · 14 Feb 2006, 12:41 (Ref:1522528)

Quote:

Originally Posted by karimbo

In the rain Jos is an absolute master. After just a single season in F3 in 1993, (he won the championship) he began his F1 career in '94: his team mate was Scumacher. Even veterans like Brundle looked bad next to Kaiser Michael.

Er no. Brundle was often better where as Jos never was.

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