Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > Single Seater Racing > Formula One

View Poll Results: Who do you vote for?
Ferrari 2 6.90%
Mercedes 20 68.97%
Red Bull 0 0%
Haas 0 0%
McLaren 5 17.24%
Alfa Romeo 0 0%
Renault 1 3.45%
Racing Point 0 0%
Toro Rosso 0 0%
Williams 1 3.45%
Voters: 29. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 31 Mar 2019, 14:56 (Ref:3894443)   #1
Born Racer
Race Official
Veteran
 
Born Racer's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 8,974
Born Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of FameBorn Racer will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Team of the Grand Prix: Bahrain Grand Prix 2019

Who do you vote for?
Born Racer is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 16:55 (Ref:3894472)   #2
Mark0994
Veteran
 
Mark0994's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2015
Serbia
Belgrade
Posts: 1,018
Mark0994 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Mercedes
Mark0994 is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 16:58 (Ref:3894476)   #3
RichardRenes
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Netherlands
Rotterdam
Posts: 593
RichardRenes should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Mercedes for being reliable enough to score a 1-2 when things go wrong for other teams.
RichardRenes is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 17:03 (Ref:3894478)   #4
F1Pete
Veteran
 
F1Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Canada
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,120
F1Pete should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridF1Pete should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Merc

Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk
F1Pete is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 17:17 (Ref:3894489)   #5
GT6
Veteran
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
England
MAIDSTONE, KENT, ENGLAND
Posts: 11,686
GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!GT6 is going for a new world record!
Mercedes in the end but it should have been the red cars
GT6 is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 17:23 (Ref:3894501)   #6
Greem
Veteran
 
Greem's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
United Kingdom
Posts: 5,067
Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!Greem is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Mercedes, without a doubt.
Greem is offline  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 17:34 (Ref:3894507)   #7
Akrapovic
Veteran
 
Akrapovic's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2015
Scotland
Posts: 10,912
Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!Akrapovic is the undisputed Champion of the World!
I'm finding it hard to choose. Mercedes I guess, but they weren't really that good. Bottas was nowhere, and they were not on top of the tyre situation. But then you look down the grid and there's no team that really stands out.
Akrapovic is online now  
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 17:39 (Ref:3894510)   #8
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,144
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Mercedes.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 20:35 (Ref:3894540)   #9
Adam43
14th
1% Club
 
Adam43's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
European Union
New Orleans
Posts: 42,425
Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!Adam43 is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Renault.
Adam43 is offline  
__________________
Seriously not taking motorsport too seriously.
Quote
Old 31 Mar 2019, 22:23 (Ref:3894557)   #10
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,144
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Adam43 View Post
Renault.
You jest, .
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 05:11 (Ref:3894589)   #11
Notso Swift
Veteran
 
Notso Swift's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
United Nations
37deg 46'52.36" S 144deg 59' 01.83"E
Posts: 1,908
Notso Swift should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith View Post
You jest, .
It takes a special talent to get two cars to break down within 100mt of each other
Notso Swift is offline  
__________________
Contrary to popular opinion, I do have mechanical sympathy, I always feel sorry for the cars I drive.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 06:58 (Ref:3894603)   #12
F J Nedos
Veteran
 
F J Nedos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Australia
Canberra
Posts: 1,267
F J Nedos should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Williams. Why not.
F J Nedos is offline  
__________________
I'm not saying "let's go and kill all the stupid people"... I'm just saying "let's remove all of the warning labels and let the problem sort itself out".
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 07:57 (Ref:3894612)   #13
TrapezeArtist
Veteran
 
TrapezeArtist's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2007
United Kingdom
England
Posts: 1,872
TrapezeArtist should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTrapezeArtist should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTrapezeArtist should be qualifying in the top 3 on the gridTrapezeArtist should be qualifying in the top 3 on the grid
Quote:
Originally Posted by Akrapovic View Post
I'm finding it hard to choose. Mercedes I guess, but they weren't really that good. Bottas was nowhere, and they were not on top of the tyre situation. But then you look down the grid and there's no team that really stands out.
I too struggled with this and nearly didn't vote. But in the end I gave it to Ferrari. Vettel's woes were down to driver not team (we have a separate pool for that) and I have to forgive them Leclerc's engine problem in order to vote for them. But they were the stand-out fastest cars.
TrapezeArtist is offline  
__________________
The older I get, the faster I was.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 09:47 (Ref:3894636)   #14
BertMk2
Race Official
Veteran
 
BertMk2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
United Kingdom
Nr Maidstone, Kent
Posts: 10,270
BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!
Gave it to Mercedes - mainly because everyone else had at least one failure or underperformer.
BertMk2 is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 10:23 (Ref:3894642)   #15
ApexTurtle
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
United States
Posts: 299
ApexTurtle is a back marker
Ferrari after their performance in Melbourne turned things around. Can't vote for Mercedes, they simply got lucky and Bottas severely underperformed.
ApexTurtle is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 11:01 (Ref:3894647)   #16
BertMk2
Race Official
Veteran
 
BertMk2's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
United Kingdom
Nr Maidstone, Kent
Posts: 10,270
BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!BertMk2 is going for a new world record!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ApexTurtle View Post
Ferrari after their performance in Melbourne turned things around. Can't vote for Mercedes, they simply got lucky and Bottas severely underperformed.
Interesting take. Whilst Ferrari certainly found the pace they were missing in Melbourne they had a failure on one car (lucky to finish after losing a cylinder) and the other car took itself of contention with a spin then front wing falling off as a result. Mercedes did get lucky - but they had both cars still capable of getting lucky. Ferrari had the fastest car and blew it.
BertMk2 is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 11:30 (Ref:3894652)   #17
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,144
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by ApexTurtle View Post
Ferrari after their performance in Melbourne turned things around. Can't vote for Mercedes, they simply got lucky and Bottas severely underperformed.
Apparently Bottas got a plastic bag stuck in his front wing, which was costing him performance.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 14:13 (Ref:3894671)   #18
ApexTurtle
Racer
 
Join Date: Mar 2019
United States
Posts: 299
ApexTurtle is a back marker
Quote:
Originally Posted by BertMk2 View Post
Interesting take. Whilst Ferrari certainly found the pace they were missing in Melbourne they had a failure on one car (lucky to finish after losing a cylinder) and the other car took itself of contention with a spin then front wing falling off as a result. Mercedes did get lucky - but they had both cars still capable of getting lucky. Ferrari had the fastest car and blew it.
There are indeed multiple takes on this, but in my view the car failed Ferrari as a team and not the other way around. Although to be fair, I think they should have waited with pitting Vettel and given up track position to Hamilton, just like the first stint.
ApexTurtle is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 15:05 (Ref:3894676)   #19
chillibowl
Veteran
 
chillibowl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Canada
winnipeg, canada
Posts: 9,719
chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!chillibowl is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Im not sure where or how exactly SV damaged his front wing, but if it was from the kerbs maybe Ferrari made set up choices that ultimately caused different issues/vibrations which led to the engine failure in their other car.

Pure speculation on my part but along the lines of the difficulty in seperating the car from the team.... In other words, i guess im not really making much of a point at all.
chillibowl is offline  
__________________
Home, is where I want to be but I guess I'm already there
I come home, she lifted up her wings guess that this must be the place
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 15:14 (Ref:3894677)   #20
crmalcolm
Subscriber
Veteran
 
crmalcolm's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2007
Nepal
Exactly where I need to be.
Posts: 12,292
crmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Famecrmalcolm will be entering the Motorsport Hall of Fame
Quote:
Originally Posted by chillibowl View Post
Im not sure where or how exactly SV damaged his front wing, but if it was from the kerbs maybe Ferrari made set up choices that ultimately caused different issues/vibrations which led to the engine failure in their other car.

Pure speculation on my part but along the lines of the difficulty in seperating the car from the team.... In other words, i guess im not really making much of a point at all.
The consensus seems to be that the wing failed due to vibrations, caused by flat spots following the spin.

So it could be argued Vettel broke his wing by causing his car to vibrate too much?

'Worse, though, was that the spin appeared to cause vibrations on Vettel’s medium tyres which then led to a dramatic moment when his front wing submarined under his car down Bahrain’s back straight, forcing him to pit for a new nose.'


Vettel: 'I obviously had the spin [...] Due to that I had a lot of vibrations so when I was going down the straight I had lots of vibrations and that caused the front wing to break.'
crmalcolm is offline  
__________________
"When you’re just too socially awkward for real life, Ten-Tenths welcomes you with open arms. Everyone has me figured out, which makes it super easy for me."
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 16:09 (Ref:3894686)   #21
Peter Mallett
The Honourable Mallett
20KPINAL
 
Peter Mallett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
England
Here and there
Posts: 37,234
Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Why isn't there a vote for the Channel 4 or Sky F1 teams? *asking for a friend*
Peter Mallett is offline  
__________________
I've decided to stop reaching out to people. I'm just going to contact them instead.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 16:24 (Ref:3894691)   #22
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,144
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by crmalcolm View Post
The consensus seems to be that the wing failed due to vibrations, caused by flat spots following the spin.

So it could be argued Vettel broke his wing by causing his car to vibrate too much?

'Worse, though, was that the spin appeared to cause vibrations on Vettel’s medium tyres which then led to a dramatic moment when his front wing submarined under his car down Bahrain’s back straight, forcing him to pit for a new nose.'


Vettel: 'I obviously had the spin [...] Due to that I had a lot of vibrations so when I was going down the straight I had lots of vibrations and that caused the front wing to break.'
I can't remember ever seeing anyone lose their front wing because of too much vibration. If that's the case, Ferrari will need to look at how the front wing is attached to the car.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 16:31 (Ref:3894696)   #23
Peter Mallett
The Honourable Mallett
20KPINAL
 
Peter Mallett's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 1999
England
Here and there
Posts: 37,234
Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!Peter Mallett is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Raikkonen in 2005(?)
Peter Mallett is offline  
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 16:52 (Ref:3894703)   #24
bjohnsonsmith
Race Official
20KPINAL
 
bjohnsonsmith's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
United States
London, England
Posts: 23,144
bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!bjohnsonsmith is the undisputed Champion of the World!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Peter Mallett View Post
Raikkonen in 2005(?)
I'd stopped watching F1, by 2005, as I got bored with Schumacher and Ferrari's dominance. That's 14 years since the last time.
bjohnsonsmith is offline  
__________________
"If you're not winning you're not trying."
Colin Chapman.
Quote
Old 1 Apr 2019, 18:00 (Ref:3894712)   #25
F1Pete
Veteran
 
F1Pete's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Canada
Sudbury, Ontario, Canada
Posts: 1,120
F1Pete should be qualifying in the top 10 on the gridF1Pete should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Was Kimi 2005 when his from tire was so badly flat spotted that the front suspension let go shortly before the end of the race? If that's the case, the car was under severe vibration for a while before things fell apart.

Vettel's front wing came off in short order after the spin which would lead to tell me how super fragile these front wings are this year. Ricci's wing peeled off pretty easy too hitting that grass side walk at the start in Oz.

We have all seen where cars have even taken some bad bumps and some air and the wings have stayed intact.

Just seems bizarre how quickly Vettel's wing came off. Maybe there is more to the story, who knows.

Sent from my SM-G955W using Tapatalk
F1Pete is offline  
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[Official] Bahrain Grand Prix 2019: Grand Prix Weekend Thread - Round 2 of 21 Born Racer Formula One 158 5 Apr 2019 18:56
[Official] Driver of the Grand Prix: Bahrain Grand Prix 2019 Born Racer Formula One 43 2 Apr 2019 13:23
[Official] Bahrain Grand Prix - Predictions Contest 2019 - Round 2 of 21 - Entries Born Racer Predictions Contest & Fun 8 30 Mar 2019 10:55
[Official] Team of the Grand Prix: Australian Grand Prix 2019 Born Racer Formula One 12 18 Mar 2019 22:34
[Official] Team of the Grand Prix: Bahrain Grand Prix 2015 Born Racer Formula One 19 28 Apr 2015 23:59


All times are GMT. The time now is 07:30.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.