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Old 21 Jan 2011, 08:57 (Ref:2818687)   #16
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Iain, remove chip and calm down; their time will come, or indeed has come, if you see Andy's excellent post above. It's just that HSCC don't cater for them; they can't cater for every historic series, although I'm sure Grahame White would like to achieve world domination if the race calendar could provide sufficient track time!

And I meant what I said, as a historic series, would love to get the S2000 reports and pics!
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Old 21 Jan 2011, 10:05 (Ref:2818717)   #17
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I consider Sports 2000 one of the success stories of the last few years. From a poorly-supported championship with processional races it's been transformed into big grids with close, clean racing. From being something which I treated with a certain amount of derision Sports 2000 has now become one of my favourite racing classes!

At Oulton last year they had three races, for Duratecs, Pintos & Historics. Numbers may not be representative, as they included the Derek Bell Trophy in the Duratec & Historic races, Duratecs also had an invitation class & a number of drivers did both Pinto & Historic Races in the same car, but the Duratec race had 26 entries, Pintos 21 & Historics 18. I can't report specifically on the Historics (sorry, John!) but from memory all three were good, entertaining races.

At a time when we're complaining about too many series/championships chasing the same or similar cars I would seriously question whether HSCC, or any other club for that matter, should contemplate catering for Historic Sports 2000s; SRCC is doing a good job . . . leave it to them.
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Old 21 Jan 2011, 10:27 (Ref:2818730)   #18
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AFAIK they ran at SPA last year alongside T70s etc. and in race one a T70 won overall and in race two it was beaten into second by a duratech. Also I heard that the duratech version is the fastest sports car series in Britian this year. A Pinto runs about 125 bhp and duratech about 195. Roughly.
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Old 21 Jan 2011, 10:33 (Ref:2818733)   #19
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That's right. Spa Summer Classic. The Sports 2000 guys usually have their own race but also race in others. I think it was a Pinto version that won the 4 hour race, against hordes of old 911s & the odd T70 etc. I think the Kremer 935 broke!
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Old 22 Jan 2011, 10:05 (Ref:2819171)   #20
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Guys,

I picked up this thread from the SRCC forum, so this is my 1st post.

I run a Lola T492 in the SRCC Historic class and they are great fun and relatively affordable, last year I actually managed to win the Derek Bell trophy for 'mature' drivers in my 1st full year of racing (by scoring points in each round not by being fast I assure you)

The club is really friendly and Colin Feyerabend who runs it manages to get us on the best circuits inc this year the new Silverstone GP, Oulton, Cadwell, Brands (last year we did the Brands GP circuit) and of course Spa.

Last year I did the 2 x 30 min S2000 races at Spa (all classes inc the quick Duratecs + 2 Lola T70's) and the 100 mile race, attached photo from the 1st lap.

Whilst I'd love to do the 2 ltr group 6 historics I simply can't justify 100k + for a GRD or 200k + for a Lola or a Chevron or the rebuild costs for a BDG.

So if anyone wants to do some ecomomic historic sports car racing (exactly as John Webb intended when he set the series up) look no further than S2000.

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Old 22 Jan 2011, 10:34 (Ref:2819178)   #21
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Welcome Kevin,

Good story there, thanks for posting it. And I think you've hit the nail on the head. A great club series in its time and now being brought back to life. Some very pretty cars racing in that championship.
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Old 22 Jan 2011, 13:34 (Ref:2819225)   #22
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Echoing what Kevin says, Colin Feyerabend does a fantastic job for S2000. He gets them an extraordinarily good calendar. Frankly I don't know when he finds time to eat and sleep.

A colleague at the HSCC (Chris Alford) used to race the cars in period and thinks they are tremendous value for money and great fun to drive. He says you can almost forget about engine rebuild costs.

It would be nice to see more of the earlier Pinto cars racing. They look prettier than the later cars. I recollect that when Iain Rowley and Alan Morgan made a big effort to promote earlier Historic FF2000s it took just a couple of years to get to a 40 car grid at last year's 'International Trophy'.

How many Pinto engined S2000s are sitting in garages and barns?

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Old 22 Jan 2011, 13:41 (Ref:2819231)   #23
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A colleague at the HSCC (Chris Alford) used to race the cars in period and thinks they are tremendous value for money and great fun to drive. He says you can almost forget about engine rebuild costs.
He's one of the drivers I remember watching.

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I recollect that when Iain Rowley and Alan Morgan made a big effort to promote earlier Historic FF2000s it took just a couple of years to get to a 40 car grid at last year's 'International Trophy'.

How many Pinto engined S2000s are sitting in garages and barns?

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I have some intersting number from the clubs 'stato'. In the last 4 seasons 70 different Pinto cars raced and in 2010 alone 40 different cars raced. I suggest at least 50% of these are pre 83' or Historic in the clubs terms.

In terms of numbers in garages there are tons, the guy who runs my car has 4/5 Pinto's (think all historic) that didn't get out last year and one guy has 5 Pinto cars of which I think only 1 raced last year.

Lola made just under a 100 T492's, a fair proportion are shown on the Lola heritage website (see chassis register).

So as I say loads of cars avialable to buy or for rental drives if anyone wants to come out to play. Of course not all as good looking as my lola.

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Old 22 Jan 2011, 14:48 (Ref:2819245)   #25
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there's more than enough in one shed where I go to use the rolling road
Do they want to sell any of their Sports 2000 cars?
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Old 22 Jan 2011, 15:19 (Ref:2819250)   #26
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Kevin, welcome. Any chance of reporting back on any of the races once the season gets underway?
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Kevin, welcome. Any chance of reporting back on any of the races once the season gets underway?
Sure how do I go about that, can you point me to any examples?

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Thats a great photo Kevin at Spa. Strange that both Porche cars are pink. Thats another story from the past
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With historic S2000's constructed by Lola, March, Tiga, Chevron etc the basic design/engineering on these cars is not so very different from the earlier FIA 2.0 cars.

I have one of the later Chevron S2's and looking at the lovely B19 and B26 on the autosport stand I know that a lot of the details are quite similar.

Where else can you race a sports car from one of these manufacturers on a reasonable budget?

The club is well run, has some good venues and more importantly nearly always gets the garages!

I hope the HSCC do not let S2000 cars run in their new series, especially if grid numbers are low, as it will undermine the SRCC and its own very considerable efforts to run its own championships
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This was me in 1981.....30 years ago! We did all the long distance 200 mile races it is a Tiga SC78/9

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