2018 DTM - Page 17

NSX_LeMans · 16 Sep 2018, 14:54 (Ref:3850676)

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Originally Posted by S griffin

Be interesting to see how Ogier gets on in what must be his first circuit race

He has done a few already

Matt K · 17 Sep 2018, 07:41 (Ref:3850947)

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Originally Posted by Bramzel

Actually it's rumoured that the Mercedes split might get him a seat at Toro Rosso. As Ocon proves a Mercedes contract sometimes keeps you out of seats rather than in them

Yes, now I know that so maybe it's not the end of Wehrlein's chances. Still not a fan of him so whatever

And this Ocon thing is a huge huge shame! But it's different story

**FIRE** · 19 Sep 2018, 17:31 (Ref:3851453)

Off-topic but if Mercedes really believe in Ocon (and Wehrlein) they must put him in a Williams.

tux · 22 Sep 2018, 12:34 (Ref:3851961)

I know team orders are nothing new but it leaves a bad taste that the guy who was running p4 at the beginning of the last lap ends up wining.

cg7aa · 27 Sep 2018, 21:47 (Ref:3853049)

Ogier's performance - Was it as expected, did he exceed expectations or under-perform? Discuss.

Juntos · 29 Sep 2018, 16:38 (Ref:3853283)

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Originally Posted by cg7aa

Ogier's performance - Was it as expected, did he exceed expectations or under-perform? Discuss.

Enough to speed him up to Citroen WRC squad's contract for the next two years.

DS" · 1 Oct 2018, 10:17 (Ref:3853777)

You know Formula One is bad this year, when you're more excited for the next DTM race than for the next Formula One race. And why not? The 55 minute race format has worked so far, thus DTM races aren't drawn out too much. If there's a "boring" DTM race, it's at least over within an hour. But the on-track product is still closer than F1 and it feels like the DTM's production is slightly better, since they also put a good focus on battles in the midfield, whereas Formula One just likes to show the race leaders.

Of course there are some "traditions" DTM has a hard time shedding, such as team orders. The team orders at the Red Bull Ring may be good for the excitement of the championship, but still bad for the sport. But that's what you get when you have three manufacturers footing the bill. It'd be better for the future if DTM evolved into an IndyCar/Supercars style series, as in the manufacturers only providing cars to the teams. Because I don't know if BMW or Audi want to pump that money into DTM any longer. But the gradual opening towards private teams is a step into the right direction. The series would be even better, if for example a driver from Team Phoenix wouldn't have to wave through a driver from Team Rosberg, but rather fight him on the track.

But overall, DTM has really improved under Gerhard Berger. If Hans-Werner Aufrecht was still in charge, I doubt that we would have even had a 2018 season to talk about. But if DTM keeps the costs stable, brings more opportunities for teams to earn money, then I can see a stable future for DTM. I'd certainly hope so.

helgi · 14 Oct 2018, 17:58 (Ref:3856818)

And no comments after the last race. What to say? Merc has destroyed Paffett's career - he was to debut in F1 after his first title. But then no chances outside of DTM (there were one or two outings in marathons). Mortara was happy enough to have something at GT3 rankings at least. Spengler and Green were happy to leave this Merc swamp in favour of wide range activity in other classes. Well, maybe he's happy to have a career like that, changing one show racing for another one with F-E.

cg7aa · 14 Oct 2018, 20:21 (Ref:3856832)

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Originally Posted by helgi

And no comments after the last race...

I really enjoyed race 1. I've said it before but I'll say it again, Rast is a class act. A bit disappointing to see Di Resta having a bit of a lucklustre pair of races. Well done to Gary but I have to say I've never really warmed to him. Nothing against the bloke and as I've already said well done to him but there's something about his attitude. His outburst on the radio after the first race is a case in point, not really necessary to be effing and blinding like that.

Cinghio44 · 15 Oct 2018, 12:52 (Ref:3856935)

Congratulations to Paffett and Mercedes. But for me Rast has been the hero of the season

Matt K · 15 Oct 2018, 21:47 (Ref:3857036)

Paffett won the title and congratulations to him but Rast was the most impressive driver of the season, no doubt. And I agree with @cg7aa, Paffett's attitude is terrible. He was the biggest primadonna in the DTM (maybe along with Wehrlein), always criticising everybody for everything and crying through the radio after the tiniest contact. Pretty miserable for such an experienced driver. Honestly saying, I don't like the guy.

rich07 · 18 Oct 2018, 10:52 (Ref:3857490)

Is it true he doesn’t speak German?

Matt K · 18 Oct 2018, 13:36 (Ref:3857545)

I've never heard him speaking German, this may be true.