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Old 14 Oct 2018, 21:52 (Ref:3856838)   #31
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LMP1 class balance was hardly relevant in that race anyways. There was only one privateer car with a remotely decent race and I don't think they had the right strategy to ever contend either way. At this point I think we probably need to wait until next year for those cars to have enough development to make equalization even viable. Most interesting thing about LMP1 was watching what a pain it was for the BR1 to pass a slower Toyota early on because of how badly it would lose off of every slow corner.
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 00:28 (Ref:3856852)   #32
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Another extremely boring race. It makes F1 looks exciting.
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 07:07 (Ref:3856889)   #33
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Certainly not a classic, but held my interest for it's entirety. Nishy's commentary was again outstanding, which helped. He's in a class of his own at the moment (and I include the team working across the Pond when I say that).

For me, any notion of the privateer P1's actually racing Toyota through EOT is long gone (not that I ever believed it was possible in the first place). What we need is race long reliability from those SMP BR1's, because the potential is there for some epic racing between SMP and Rebellion.
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 07:13 (Ref:3856890)   #34
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http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/1...es-podium.html

Dempsey Proton should be in big trouble for this, but seems a smack on the wrist is all they'll get. Or will this be taken further...?
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 08:22 (Ref:3856892)   #35
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The prevalence of post-race penalties affecting finishing results has bee a depressingly common theme in recent months.
Wouldn't be an ACO race without it
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 08:51 (Ref:3856895)   #36
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Worked absolutely perfectly for me and has on every race this season. Same for both my sons and my brother-in-law.
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 17:47 (Ref:3856968)   #37
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Yes I've also never had a problem with the WEC app as far as I can remember. Maybe one time a replay didn't work but the live stuff has always worked very well for me. Always HD, no interruptions or buffering.
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Old 15 Oct 2018, 18:04 (Ref:3856974)   #38
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http://www.dailysportscar.com/2018/1...es-podium.html

Dempsey Proton should be in big trouble for this, but seems a smack on the wrist is all they'll get. Or will this be taken further...?
Modifying the reading of refuelling time with the implication that this was to cover up another cheat! Sounds really dodgy.
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Modifying the reading of refuelling time with the implication that this was to cover up another cheat! Sounds really dodgy.
Yeah, I could understand a timing issue and I understood Land and others with refueling "challenges" this season. But modifying the code so your time reads plus 2 seconds? You'd think they would notice that and surprised there isn't a tougher penalty. The other guys this season were pushing the regs and there was some ambiguity, this seems black letter and I think exclusion from another race could be warranted. Doubt they would but I don't think it would be over the top.
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Old 16 Oct 2018, 01:05 (Ref:3857052)   #41
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I enjoyed the race. I love the Fuji track and 100r into the hairpin is a great turn. There was a lot of passing in the race, just because lmp1 didn't have a challenge to Toyota didn't mean that it was boring. At least to me that is. Once the rain was there, no one would touch Toyota anyway. Even in 2015 when they had by far the slowest lmp1 they were mighty in the rain thanks to the dual kers. For those that said the weight had no affect, they were slower than 2016. 1:22's in qualifying that year vs 1:23's this year. And we know that the Toyota has been breaking lap records before the weight addition. So it looks like it cost them nearly a second. Private teams are almost there but it doesn't help their cause with their unreliability playing a factor. They'll get there I'm sure of it, one way or another.
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Old 16 Oct 2018, 07:42 (Ref:3857083)   #42
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Certainly not a classic, but held my interest for it's entirety. Nishy's commentary was again outstanding, which helped. He's in a class of his own at the moment (and I include the team working across the Pond when I say that).
McNish has a great deal of insight... and then has to spend half his time correcting Martin Haven's latest piece of shouty uninformed speculation
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Old 16 Oct 2018, 17:36 (Ref:3857136)   #43
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For me, any notion of the privateer P1's actually racing Toyota through EOT is long gone (not that I ever believed it was possible in the first place). What we need is race long reliability from those SMP BR1's, because the potential is there for some epic racing between SMP and Rebellion.
I agree with that, Rebellion and SMP have the same speed, and ByKolles have their own battle with DragonSpeed. Isn't much, but is what we have right now. It could be a lot more interesting if SMP could get rid of they mechanical issues.

BTW, congratulation to Koba, Mike and Lopez, this time they have had what they needed at Le Mans.
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Toyota domination and (to-be-resumed-for-LM-2019?) built-in mileage advantage might be boring, but even that + Rebellion vs SMP & Kolles vs Dragonspeed is still infinitely more interesting than what spec galore proam LMP2 as whole has to offer - or BoP-DPi-lucky-dog for that matter. I try to watch ELMS and ASLMS from time to time, but I always fall asleep at some point because it just... doesn't seem to matter. You know that the cars are gonna be exactly the same in the final round as it was in the first round (save some possible ACO special performance waivers for non-Orecas) and that a team with best chosen fake silver drivers is gonna take it away

It is worrying though that they've started to make leaps towards bopping the individual nonhybrid cars now, already they've given weight break, more petrol energy, more fuel and bigger refueling restrictors for NA engines in contrast to turbocharged. That was never the case in the past it may still be "just" engines but who knows what'll happen now that EoT is basically synonym to BoP

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Toyota domination and (to-be-resumed-for-LM-2019?) built-in mileage advantage might be boring, but even that + Rebellion vs SMP & Kolles vs Dragonspeed is still infinitely more interesting than what spec galore proam LMP2 as whole has to offer - or BoP-DPi-lucky-dog for that matter. I try to watch ELMS and ASLMS from time to time, but I always fall asleep at some point because it just... doesn't seem to matter. You know that the cars are gonna be exactly the same in the final round as it was in the first round (save some possible ACO special performance waivers for non-Orecas) and that a team with best chosen fake silver drivers is gonna take it away

It is worrying though that they've started to make leaps towards bopping the individual nonhybrid cars now, already they've given weight break, more petrol energy, more fuel and bigger refueling restrictors for NA engines in contrast to turbocharged. That was never the case in the past it may still be "just" engines but who knows what'll happen now that EoT is basically synonym to BoP
It's not ideal, but there's definitely a need to balance turbo and NA engines. Another thing is the EOT is class wide and not individual cars ala DPi. Both turbo and NA non-hybrids were given another break for Fuji. Also it seems the ByKolles lost a turbo and was down over 100hp in the race. They were multiple laps down on Rebellion even, but still a respectable race for them.
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