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Old 22 Oct 2018, 10:27 (Ref:3858369)   #16
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At 1700kg that’s way more than most road sporty hatchbacks. I’d put money on the road car being able to corner quicker. How much did a road going Civic Type R weigh? I think it was between 1200kg and 1300kg depending on the model.
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 12:10 (Ref:3858389)   #17
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according to this http://webcarstory.com/tech.php?id=80933
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 12:47 (Ref:3858397)   #18
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The big question, for me, is how far will these cars go on a charge? Race distance one hopes but what is race distance?

I consider Formula E a joke because of the having tool change car mid race nonsense, hopefully these boys will not be making the same mistake.
Touring car races are generally 20-30 mins - I'd expect these cars to manage that.

As an aside, as of next season car swapping in FE is no more - they will apparently now go a race distance (plus the new car looks great). I'll be giving it a look next season.

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400 kgs more than normal TCR
Which is presumably why they've given it nearly 700hp! It will be quick in a straight line at least, how well it will brake and go round corners is anyone's guess. Plus, as already mentioned, that much extra weight is likely to make crashes bigger and more expensive.

I'm not convinced by this at the moment, but keeping an open mind...
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 15:08 (Ref:3858425)   #19
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 16:33 (Ref:3858438)   #20
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And they will be RWD. Let's give them at least a chance
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 19:11 (Ref:3858476)   #21
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Did a search yesterday but did not find it.
Moved the topic to this one.
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Old 22 Oct 2018, 19:19 (Ref:3858479)   #22
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400 kg heavier but double the power.
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Old 23 Oct 2018, 08:15 (Ref:3858556)   #23
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Touring car races are generally 20-30 mins - I'd expect these cars to manage that.

As an aside, as of next season car swapping in FE is no more - they will apparently now go a race distance (plus the new car looks great). I'll be giving it a look next season.



Which is presumably why they've given it nearly 700hp! It will be quick in a straight line at least, how well it will brake and go round corners is anyone's guess. Plus, as already mentioned, that much extra weight is likely to make crashes bigger and more expensive.

I'm not convinced by this at the moment, but keeping an open mind...
Brakes will be fine - they will utilize a lot of regen from the motor


A lot of the questions being thrown up here are already covered by the Jag I-Pace Trophy,
https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/f...rophy-race-car
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FIA WRX proposed an electric class, but Peugeot has left.


I have doubts over the feasabilty of the proposal.


Anyway, Formula E has been much more successful than I predicted.


So let the new challenge begin!
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When they realise that electricity fans do not care about racing, everybody will be happy, I think.
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Old 24 Oct 2018, 12:19 (Ref:3858840)   #26
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400kg? That's frankly ridiculous. Take a Golf, add 400kg to it and you have a Golf that's weighing in near to a full size petrol SUV.

On that basis I'm out, until battery technology moves on...
Not sure that this is really a genuine reason to dismiss the championship altogether... If anything, a heavier car could improve the quality of the racing - heavier car = bigger braking distances = more scope for outbraking manoeuvres. Also, they will have less grip through the corners as a result of the weight, so may make them a bit more of a handful, which is rarely a bad thing in my opinion.
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Old 24 Oct 2018, 13:19 (Ref:3858854)   #27
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A short demo race could actually help us to judge

For me, given that the cars will be rwd and will have a lot power, it could be an interesting combination. And the big difference with FE is that they will race on real race tracks
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Has there been any hint on how much a car like this would cost? I also wonder how easy it would be for small, private teams to operate.
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Has there been any hint on how much a car like this would cost? I also wonder how easy it would be for small, private teams to operate.
I read on an italian site that it will cost 250.000Ä, the double of an actual Cupra TCR.

Initially I think it will be out of range of the private teams.

For me the nosense is that a car like the Cupra has no link to an electric road car. The philosophy is there but it won't match any road going car. It would be just impossible to buy a car like this for normal people. Okay that is a racing car but its commerciale counterpart, ipotetically how much would it cost?
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Old 26 Oct 2018, 09:13 (Ref:3859250)   #30
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With this cost per car what sort of series can exist? Perhaps something with works teams but like TCR no way
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