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I'd be shocked if Chip does not have a P2 car in his back pocket "Just in case". The teams with the money will want to win in whatever car is dominant.
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I don't think that is a problem. PC has done better this year staying out of the way of GT, probably because of the improved tires. Those tires will be on the PC's next season and I expect the current gap with GT to be maintained. If the Proto class stays at P2 speeds next season uscr will maintain the class gap speed which alms had this season. A big question mark for me is the proto tires. Yes they will be continental, but I'm wondering if they will be upgraded in any way and if the dp tire will be different that the p2 tire.
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I like ALMS more than GA (but I don't hate GA). That being said I feel pretty bad for the GA car owners. It's going to cost them serious $$$ to bring their DP cars up to spec for only 2 years before a total new car is brought out in 2016.
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There are several problems if you slow down the LMP2's
a) Several American teams have expressed interest in running in USCR as well as selected WEC events (Level 5, ESM, 8 Star). So the changes have to be cheap and easy reversible. Also, since the LMP2 cars in WEC, ELMS and Asian LMS have the same rules, I doubt that the LMP2 chassis builders would like to build cars to a different set of rules for USCR. b) As mentioned before LMP2 cars are not much faster than LMPC cars, so if you slow them down, you also have to slow the LMPC cars down, which will make them almost as slow as the GTLM cars. I think slowing them down 1-1.5 seconds via different tyres would be ok, but everything beyond that will cause trouble. I'm not against DPs at all, but I think if USCR wants to have DPs in the top class, they have to make the DPs faster, and not the LMP2s slower. |
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"Good news, everybody! We bought the ALMS. The DP class is being eliminated and you'll only have to spend six figures to update your cars and spares inventory!"
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They could just have let the DPs not spend any money to upgrade and run them as-is between LMPC and GTE.
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I would say that the people who believe that DP cars will NOT be the premier class in 2014, perhaps should stop taking whatever it is they are currently taking, as it must be an illegal substance and clearly is hallucinatory.............
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Fact of the matter is... I don't know of many fans that are "excited" with either DP OR LMP2 as prototypes. There is no real car development in either. If that's what they will end up being in USCR...I say just dump all prototypes and boost GTLM to DP/P2 lap times. I'd bet it would not be that hard. I've often wondered what a street Corvette C7 with traction control, ABS, stock HP, carbon brakes, racing tires could do lap time compared to DP, LMP2 and GTLM. (Same pro driver who is familiar with each). I know there was some comparison (older Corvette) in a magazine some time back and if I remember the conclusion was that the street version with racing tires might actually beat the racing version. |
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There was a time in the late 60's when group 4 sportscars (GT) were winning against Group 6 prototypes. Let's get back to where GT cars can win overall. I understand that will never happen against a P1 car, but I'd bet you could take a C7 with what I said earlier and give a P2/DP a run for it's money.
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Pray tell, why are you talking about an all GT grid in a thread comparing DP to P-2?
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