GTD/FIAGT3 Cars 2014

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by BullMan

How am I missing the point? If they are trying to keep costs down, then why did they work with Porsche to create a USCC-ONLY 911 that can be only run in that series? Why are they admitting GT3 cars which nobody running ALMS GTC or GAGT have? Seems like they wouldn't be doing this if they wanted to keep costs down. The 911 GT America is just about the same price as a regular GT3 Cup car. Why not just make that the USCC 911?

Sigh, the GT-America is a slightly uprated Cup car, and the changes that are done are to make it more suitable for endurance racing, saving teams some work as they'd have to make these changes themselves otherwise.

Also, there should be a good 2nd hand market in various open European series like VLN, Britcar or in Scandinavia.

[morningview66]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Sigh, the GT-America is a slightly uprated Cup car, and the changes that are done are to make it more suitable for endurance racing, saving teams some work as they'd have to make these changes themselves otherwise.

Aren't the current GAGT Porsches updated 911 Cup Cars anyway, compared to the Porsche cars in ALMS GTD which are standard 911 Cup Cars?

So in that case the Porsche GT-America is more of a straight replacement of the current Grand-Am Porsche.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by morningview66

Aren't the current GAGT Porsches updated 911 Cup Cars anyway, compared to the Porsche cars in ALMS GTD which are standard 911 Cup Cars?

So in that case the Porsche GT-America is more of a straight replacement of the current Grand-Am Porsche.

I think the ALMS GTC cars have some endurance parts (refuelling?) as well.

The current GA-Porsches are real Franken-cars with lots of RSR-bits. I think the GT-America will be much closer to what GTC is now, though of course on the 991 platform, with the biggest difference being the 4.0l engine.

[Maelochs]

And as for letting GT3s in, the reason is obviously not costs-savings for existing teams but to attract other teams to increase the series' popularity.

I think we all want to see Mercedes Gullwings, Lamborghinis, McLarens and Astons in GTD next season, and those would only be coming for GT3.

[pederb]

So we have a confirmation on the Keating entry with a SRT Viper GT3 with Jeroen Bleekemolen as one of the drivers.

[pederb]

The first Porsche 911 GT America delivered at Magnus Racing

The first Porsche 911 GT America delivered at Magnus Racing

[BullMan]

Someone asked them what they named it, and they said "Expensive." Funny though, it's about half as expensive as their old car.

[JacobP]

It seems many of posters haven't read this:

http://sportscar365.com/imsa/tusc/po...or-gt-america/

The original problem was that the Grand Am GT class regulations were not compatible with FIA GT classes. A typical way to race Porsche 911 in Grand Am, was to buy a GT3 Cup car, then rebuild it, which was horrendously expensive. Now Porsche builds a 991-generation car specially for GTD competition. The chassis is based on the 991 Cup car, but the engine is the 4.0L from the 991 RSR. The transmission and some other things were also tailored for GTD. This may be the most popular car in GTD next year because it's the least expensive.

Besides, 911 GT America, we should also see some Ferrari 458, SRT Viper, Aston Martins, and Audi R8. It's a pretty diverse field IMO. It would be nice to see BMWs or Corvette, but they still will be around in some form in the GTLM class.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by JacobP

Besides, 911 GT America, we should also see some Ferrari 458, SRT Viper, Aston Martins, and Audi R8. It's a pretty diverse field IMO. It would be nice to see BMWs or Corvette, but they still will be around in some form in the GTLM class.

Turner should be in GTD class Z4's. Were testing them at Road Atlanta week after PLM.

[Koenigsegg]

And SDR/Lotus Racing wants to compete in GTD with their Lotus Evora.

[ACFlinn]

Originally Posted by Beetle

Maybe it was a strategic way to try and attract teams from IMSA GT3 Challenge North America and the Pirelli WC?

Whatever the case, it failed...

As evidenced by the 15 to 20 Porsche GT3 Cup cars that have raced at the Rolex24 at Daytona every year since the Grand-Am series was founded in 2000.

Ironically, Magnus was in the hunt for the Grand-Am GT championship until it was taken out on the first lap at Lime Rock by a GT3 Aston.

If it ain't broke, why "fix" it?

Andy Flinn

[BullMan]

Actually, it was a GAGT Aston, complete with that thicker roll cage GA inexplicably made Audi, Ferrari, and Aston Martin put in. They also had to remove the windows, put on a different wing and splitter, AND use a GA-spec ECU to slow the car down. Not a GT3 car at all.

[Lagunaseca_4life]

Originally Posted by Fogelhund

Turner should be in GTD class Z4's. Were testing them at Road Atlanta week after PLM.

Is it confirmed though? With WC now homologating gt3 spec cars(Porsche gt3r currently in the process) that might be where he's going, or would make sense to me.

[Fogelhund]

Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

Is it confirmed though? With WC now homologating gt3 spec cars(Porsche gt3r currently in the process) that might be where he's going, or would make sense to me.

Confirmed as in officially announced, no. But, that is what the team personnel are saying is happening... could change I suppose.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Lagunaseca_4life

Is it confirmed though? With WC now homologating gt3 spec cars(Porsche gt3r currently in the process) that might be where he's going, or would make sense to me.

AIUI they were testing Contis for IMSA at Rd.Atlanta...

[Lagunaseca_4life]

Ah...that kind of info clears things up.

[pederb]

Originally Posted by pederb

I'm trying to put together a list of GTD/FIAGT3 cars for USCR 2014.

So far we have for the 2014 season

Ferrari 458
Audi R8
Aston Martin Vantage GT3
SRT Viper GT3
Porsche America Cup
AMG SLS GT3
BMW Z4 GT3

But what about;



McLaren MP4-12C
Nissan GT-R GT3
Lamborghini Gallardo GT3
Chevrolet Camaro GT3
Bentley Continental GT3
Chevrolet Corvette GT3

GTD could be a very diverse class in 2014

Latest updates

[NaBUru38]

John Dagys predicts seven GTD manufacturers.

Porsche, Ferrari, Aston Martin, SRT and BMW are pretty much confirmed, am I right? There's talks about Audi and Mercedes-Benz. So the guesses for extra manufacturers are McLaren, Nissan, Lamborghini and Bentley, plus the new Callaway Corvette.

[MoMedic9019]

Bentley will not be in it, Callaway would be an incredible longshot that I'll put in the not-gonna-happen category.

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by MoMedic9019

Bentley will not be in it, Callaway would be an incredible longshot that I'll put in the not-gonna-happen category.

Yeah, customer cars of the Corvette won't be available at all in 2014 I think, and Callaway Europe already announced that they'd be doingt GT-Masters again.

Interesting to see that Dagys says "seven manufacturers by Sebring", though - someone skipping out Daytona?

[MitchZ06]

Or Sebring test?

[Victor_RO]

Originally Posted by Speed-King

Interesting to see that Dagys says "seven manufacturers by Sebring", though - someone skipping out Daytona?

Quite possible, since the entry caps allow 3 more entries at Sebring compared to Daytona (63 vs 60).

[Speed-King]

Originally Posted by Victor_RO

Quite possible, since the entry caps allow 3 more entries at Sebring compared to Daytona (63 vs 60).

But really nowhere else... doesn't make sense to buy a car for Sebring only...

[pederb]

Aston Martin V12 GT3 and GT4 Test at Sebring

[lemansfan]

http://www.endurance-info.com/en/guy...ntinental-gt3/

The new Bentley Boys