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30 Jun 2001, 13:16 (Ref:111469) | #1 | ||
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Longest name in F1??
Has any F1 driver had a name that's longer than Bernoldi's "Enrique Antônio Langue de Silvério e Bernoldi"???
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30 Jun 2001, 13:55 (Ref:111473) | #2 | ||
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Wouldn't be surprised if de Portago had a nice long name.
Among the nobles who raced, I think you might find a few, and there were some back in the thirties, forties and fifties. Another might be Prince Bira of Thailand... blue blood always comes with lots of ink on the birth certificate. |
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30 Jun 2001, 14:48 (Ref:111488) | #3 | ||
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My money's on "Fon" de Portago, too. And if I can dig out the article on him that I know is lurking somewhere in the bookshelves....
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30 Jun 2001, 15:12 (Ref:111493) | #4 | ||
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"Fon" is listed as:
Don Alfonso Cabeza de Vacay y Leighton, 17th Marquis of de Portago His mother was English. |
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30 Jun 2001, 15:13 (Ref:111495) | #5 | ||
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I've looked it up:
1) de Portago's full name is Alfonso Cabeza de Vaca y Leighton. 2) Bira's was Prince Birabongse Bhanudej Bhanubandh! |
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anyone has a photo? I wonder if he did look like a cow! Bernoldi's name is long, but not too odd for a Brazilian... in Portugal everybody has 4 names as well... he has 5... |
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1 Jul 2001, 11:25 (Ref:111710) | #7 | ||
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Surely it's cheating a bit to include all these titles and maternal names ...
A couple which I think are probably the two longest from the English language: Thomas P Cholmondeley-Tapper (pronounced Chumley-Tapper, but I don't know what the P stands for and for some reason he was known as George ...) Robin Montgomerie-Charrington - ran an Aston-Butterworth in the 1952 Belgian GP |
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1 Jul 2001, 14:19 (Ref:111745) | #8 | ||
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In Spanish you have 2 surnames, the name of your mother, then father, and a married woman also takes her husband's father's name too.
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1 Jul 2001, 14:28 (Ref:111752) | #9 | ||
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1 Jul 2001, 15:26 (Ref:111783) | #10 | |
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Don Alfonso Cabeza de Vaca y Leighton, Carvajal y Are, Conde de la Mejorada, Marquis de Portago.
Full name and titles of 'Fon.' And there was also my countryman Jonkheer Carel Pieter Anthonie Jan Hubertus Godin de Beaufort, Count of Maarsbergen. |
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1 Jul 2001, 16:16 (Ref:111809) | #12 | ||
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Sadly, I don't think he ever got the opportunity to be "Graaf".
Gerard, as a point of curiosity - is the "Godin" part of the name a given personal name or a family title? |
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1 Jul 2001, 16:29 (Ref:111814) | #13 | ||
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Tim, I believe that "Graf" and "Graaf" are "Count" in German and Dutch.
"Jonkheer" is I am assuming, corresponds to the Prussian "Junker", a member of the military aristocracy of East Prussia. I don't think becoming a count precludes also being a Junker. Last edited by EERO; 1 Jul 2001 at 16:30. |
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1 Jul 2001, 16:56 (Ref:111826) | #14 | ||
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There was also a French racer during late 40s, who raced in Europe and also in South America who was called "George Raph". His complete name was George Raphael Bethenod de las Casas, a long name of course.
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Don K, you're right. He wasn't a count. That part should read 'Heer van Maarsbergen.' I believe the English term is 'Master of Maarsbergen.'
Tim, as far as I know, Godin was part of his family name and not a title. |
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1 Jul 2001, 22:00 (Ref:111900) | #16 | ||
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Don K: Touche!!!
But on a point of pedantry, Cholmondeley-Tapper was actually a New Zealander ... |
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1 Jul 2001, 23:29 (Ref:111922) | #17 | ||
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For my money, if I'd had a name like Maurice Gatsonides it would have been enough to change it... those autograph hunters!
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2 Jul 2001, 00:14 (Ref:111930) | #18 | |
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Ah yes, Maurice Gatsonides, famous rallydriver and inventor of the Gatsometer, those Red Light Cameras which make a nice picture of your car whenever you're traveling a trifle too fast.
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2 Jul 2001, 01:00 (Ref:111937) | #19 | ||
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Mentioned because I believe he was either a driver or relief driver in a Grand Prix in the early fifties... of course his Monte Carlo Rally drives are well known.
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2 Jul 2001, 13:30 (Ref:112098) | #20 | ||
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Funny how these things come round in circles: Gatsonides was relief driver for Jan Flinterman in the 1952 Dutch GP ...
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