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Old 27 Jan 2020, 15:09 (Ref:3954034)   #351
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Political Correctness reaches Bingo! No longer ‘two fat ladies- eighty-eight’, but ‘Wills and Kate- eighty-eight’.......

And there’s more, if anyone can be remotely bothered to find out!
My favourite is "Seven and Six - was she worth it?"
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Ah, but I didn't read it in the Daily Express! I think it was something that was being touted around in the press generally three or four months ago.
I bet it stemmed from there. With 24 hour news to fill there's no unique stories anywhere.

I have quite a downer on the Express and its ilk with their sensationlist claims that they are never brought to account for. Be it good/bad weather, food scares, or even Princess Diana found cavorting with Elvis on the moon, they scare people and generally do what they want with no comeback.

Having said that I find the weather predictions particularly hilarious.
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Old 27 Jan 2020, 15:27 (Ref:3954039)   #353
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Wouldn't translate to metric currency, though.......
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Wouldn't translate to metric currency, though.......
Thirty five pence, not well spent?

Where there's a will etc.
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Just watching out the window, looking at the first snow fall this winter; usually see this late November/early December. I blame Brexit!
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Just watching out the window, looking at the first snow fall this winter; usually see this late November/early December. I blame Brexit!
Why not! So it’s you up North that the doom laden forecast was for, then. Blue sky / sun here, although wind taking edge off.....
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Just watching out the window, looking at the first snow fall this winter; usually see this late November/early December. I blame Brexit!
Well Mike we do have to import most of our weather from abroad, and Brexit is bound to have an effect, probably snow carries less duty than sunshine.

Maybe a deal with Australia would be a good idea?
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Just heard Nicholas Parsons passed away .He was a keen race spectator I recall
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96! That’s a good innings. RIP Nicholas.....
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Yes just read that. RIP Nicholas.
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Motorsport gets off to a start in this part of the world at the weekend with the Le Touquet Enduro races taking place.

Always spectacular & well worth seeing if you can catch it on TV.
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Always spectacular & well worth seeing if you can catch it on TV.
Mmm, not sure I’ll find that- but there’s always Bathurst instead!
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No match with Bathurst, 'f course! Interesting there's a race for vintage bikes on 30 January. John, you can catch it either on FR3, local one, or La chaîne l'Equipe:
https://www.enduropaledutouquet.fr/retransmission/
If not, usual social media.
There are many English in this area, some flying to Le Touquet with private planes…
Sorry, this time its totally OT!
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No match with Bathurst, 'f course! Interesting there's a race for vintage bikes on 30 January. John, you can catch it either on FR3, local one, or La chaîne l'Equipe:
https://www.enduropaledutouquet.fr/retransmission/
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There are many English in this area, some flying to Le Touquet with private planes…
Sorry, this time its totally OT!
I think the Brits will probably still be partying from Friday night!!

Wot's social media?
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Official name is Enduropale: https://www.enduropaledutouquet.fr
I like the website presentation, clear, complete and very nice pics. They refer to FB, Tweety and some other too.

Around 350 000 spectators announced. Not bad for a french event. Maybe they count the seagulls and sea lions!
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Official name is Enduropale: https://www.enduropaledutouquet.fr
I like the website presentation, clear, complete and very nice pics. They refer to FB, Tweety and some other too.

Around 350 000 spectators announced. Not bad for a french event. Maybe they count the seagulls and sea lions!
Judging by the number of 'bikes that pass through here en route I think they probably under estimate! One day I will go, not really able to this year.

You're right, it's an excellent website, as was last years'.
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Always spectacular & well worth seeing if you can catch it on TV.
A couple of my mates have been doing this for years and one is the same age as me !!!!! I would love to have continued doing motocross into OAP territory but unfortunately a couple of dislodged vertebrae sodded that up
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If youth knew……… We have another version of this: on ne peut pas être at avoir été. In other words, we did right to make all those things when we could!
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Max asked a very relevant question on Bauble's Picture Parade about what to do with old photos, and it was a conundrum that I had to deal with about 10 years ago. My mother was designated by both my maternal and paternal families to become the guardian of all the families' photographs, some going back as far as the very first days of photography. And as a lady of leisure, she faithfully promised all and sundry that she would ensure that all the photos would be marked with whom the subjects were, and location if possible.

Unfortunately, she passed away in the mid 80s without even starting the laborious task she had undertaken, and the hundreds, maybe thousands, of photos lay in their large boxes untouched until my father passed away in 2003 when I, de facto, became the guardian of the photos. The problem was that I only recognised about 12 individuals included in the photos, so I arranged with my sister a family reunion to go through the pictures to try to identify the faces and/or places. Having met up three time over the late summer of '03, we came to the sad conclusion that we didn't have a clue who the vast majority of faces belonged to, apart from one that we discovered belonged to a very distant cousin to whom I handed the photo.

Shortly after, I moved to Spain after settling my affairs in the UK, taking the photos with me. It was apparent that none of my extended families' off-springs, including both my sister's and mine, had any interest in the photos as they meant absolutely nothing to them and they seem to have no interest in their families' history. So, when I had to return back to the UK ten years ago, I took the decision to just dump the photos in the bin rather than have to send them back to the UK (I sold virtually everything I had in Spain to make a fresh start back in Blighty).

I still regret that action, but the photos would have stayed in those big, and I do mean big, boxes untouched for ever, so what was the point of keeping them just to gather dust?
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In respect to the value of 'old photos', we have recently found them very valuable in our family.

My M-in-law is suffering with Dementia and Alzheimers, and we have noticed that she regularly seems to find old photographs around the house and they will appear in random areas. We have transferred a lot of these into a photo album that she regularly sits and browses.

It has become a comfort to her as her memory worsens - in that the photos are her current 'here and now', as opposed to being a memory. She will talk about things in the photos as if they happened yesterday, not many years ago. It allows her to have meaningful conversations with people and avoids the confusion of what is happening in 2020, which she struggles to recall.

I would therefore recommend to anyone that they keep a certain quantity of photos from various eras (if they have a suitable storage space), in the hope they may never have future value, but sadly can provide support to some in older age.
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My late Dad had dementia, and as you say, although he wouldn’t be able to remember what he’d just eaten, he could look at old photos and have total recall. Horrible disease....
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A few years ago someone locally posted on the Freecycle site that they had hundreds of colour slides taken by her late aunt & uncle who were avid travellers / hikers around the UK and Europe many years ago. The slides were to be thrown away unless anyone wanted them for free.

I and two other people replied that we would like them (for fear of such a historical record being lost) and we each got a selection of them. Although some of them are of the couple and their family / friends, a lot are of landscape views, towns and villages from the UK & Europe. Luckily most of the slides are annotated with the location. In time I'm hoping to digitise them all - I made a start but need a better process.

Would eventually like to put them on the 'net' for anyone interested. They make for a fascinating glimpse 'back in time'. Some classic car scenes as well!
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The thing about family is that you never know when, if ever, they might suddenly become interested in family history.

Once photos have been removed from annotated albums and 'collected' elsewhere links to the past and names and places are very likely lost.

I prefer to leave things as they in the context of the albums they came in when family members passed away. Management prefers to manage these things until she loses interest and moves on to "keeping things tidy by throwing stuff away".

The trouble is that a photo, out of context, can lose all value. (Memory value rather than any residual fiscal value.)

Or, as crmalcolm points out so clearly, a photo can have value to someone without meaning anything at all to anyone else.

There are one or two images taken over the years that I can no longer find (or I have mis-remembered them). It niggles me from time to time.

My management, many years ago, took some favourite prints to a local photographer to have them made into a collage. Some weeks (months) later when asked about the results he admitted that they had been lying around and somehow were soaked in water or became damp and were ruined. They were no more. That was a great disappointment for her at the time but does not seem to have dampened an enthusiasm for 'de-cluttering' on a regular basis.
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In respect to the value of 'old photos', we have recently found them very valuable in our family.

My M-in-law is suffering with Dementia and Alzheimers, and we have noticed that she regularly seems to find old photographs around the house and they will appear in random areas. We have transferred a lot of these into a photo album that she regularly sits and browses.

It has become a comfort to her as her memory worsens - in that the photos are her current 'here and now', as opposed to being a memory. She will talk about things in the photos as if they happened yesterday, not many years ago. It allows her to have meaningful conversations with people and avoids the confusion of what is happening in 2020, which she struggles to recall.

I would therefore recommend to anyone that they keep a certain quantity of photos from various eras (if they have a suitable storage space), in the hope they may never have future value, but sadly can provide support to some in older age.
I sympathise with your Mother in law's Dementia etc, sadly my Mum went the same way, thinking she was living in the past & not the present, old photographs did help her for a while, but we do wonder if they reinforced her 'living in the past' feelings later on. The saddest moment was when she asked me one day "Who is the gentleman in this photograph?" It was my Dad, her devoted husband of 40+years...
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