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Old 6 Dec 2012, 18:01 (Ref:3175864)   #101
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GT3.14 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGT3.14 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridGT3.14 should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I thought the McLaren GTE would not appear until later in the year? (Then again, we said the same thing about Manthey and the 991). Absolutely no chance of any BMW, Lexus, or NSX at Le Mans though.
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Old 6 Dec 2012, 18:06 (Ref:3175865)   #102
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I thought the McLaren GTE would not appear until later in the year? (Then again, we said the same thing about Manthey and the 991). Absolutely no chance of any BMW, Lexus, or NSX at Le Mans though.
Only later in the season and after Le Mans. The list posted here is just rampant speculation and has only strenuous links with reality in places. (Sorry Beetle, but that's the truth)
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Old 6 Dec 2012, 19:00 (Ref:3175879)   #103
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From what I've heard I don't think McLaren will be rolled out in time for Le Mans.

Hope to be proved wrong. But certainly some interesting things going on in Woking.
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And Maxime Martin is a BMW works driver now. Unfortunately we probably won't see him at Le Mans this year.
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Information explosion.

I haven't even heard ANYTHING about the Lexus LFA coming to Le Mans. I know that Acura is planning to launch a 2-3 car GTE factory program with world class drivers in 2014 in the WEC. Jaguar is planning the same as early as next year. I don't think the Bailey LMP2 car is going to happen... not enough updates on their website.

What about Kessel Racing? They're doing 3 cars in the Gulf 12 hours and were in the ELMS last year... could they possibly race in the 24 Hours of Le Mans with Broniszewski, Philipp Peter, and Davide Rigon?

What about the LMP2 Deltawing idea? Far out... but anything's possible.

I didn't know that Julian and Zugel left Greaves. I also didn't know about Sam Hancock... or Jorg Muller. Is there a possibility Hancock could go to AMR and race the Vantage like he did in 2011? In that case, the entry list is as follows...

LMP1 = 11 entries
  1. 1 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](LOTTERER/TRELUYER/FASSLER)[/COLOR]
  2. 2 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](MCNISH/KRISTENSEN/ROCKENFELLER)[/COLOR]
  3. 3 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](DUVAL/GENE/BERNHARD)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  4. 7 Toyota Racing (WURZ/NAKAJIMA/LAPIERRE)
  5. 8 Toyota Racing (DAVIDSON/BUEMI/SARRAZIN)
  6. 9 Toyota Racing (CALDARELLI/MONTAGNY/MINASSIAN)[/COLOR]
  7. 12 Rebellion Racing [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](PROST/HEIDFELD/JANI)[/COLOR]
  8. 13 Rebellion Racing [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](PRIMAT/BELICCHI/BLEEKEMOLEN)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 15 OAK Racing (MOREAU/BAGUETTE/KRAIHAMER)
  10. 21 Strakka Racing (WATTS/LEVENTIS/KANE)
  11. 22 JRM (BRABHAM/DUMBRECK/CHANDHOK)[/COLOR]

LMP2 = 22 entries
  1. [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  2. 23 Signatech-Nissan (TRESSON/LOMBARD/MAILLEUX)[/COLOR]
  3. 24 OAK Racing (NICOLET/PLA/LAHAYE)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  4. 25 ADR-Delta (MARTIN/GRAVES/KERR)
  5. 26 Signatech-Nissan (RUSINOV/PANCIATICI/RAGUES)
  6. 27 Dempsey Racing (DEMPSEY/FOSTER/DEVLIN)
  7. 28 Gulf Racing Middle East (ROSTAN/BADEY/JOHANSSON)
  8. 29 Gulf Racing Middle East (DELETRAZ/IHARA/GIROIX)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
  9. 30 Status GP (JOUSSE/BUURMAN/IANETTA)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  10. 31 Lotus (HOLZER/SCHULTIS/MORO)
  11. 32 Lotus (ROSSITER/WEEDA/LIUZZI)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
  12. 33 Level 5 Motorsports (TUCKER/DIAZ/BOUCHUT)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  13. 35 OAK Racing (LEINDERS/ENJALBERT/HEINEMEIER-HANSSON)[/COLOR]
  14. 37 Conquest Endurance (PLOWMAN/LUX/HEYLEN)
  15. 38 Jota (DOLAN/?/?)
  16. 39 Jota (?/?/?)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  17. 40 Race Performance (HIRSCHI/MEICHTRY/FREY)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  18. 42 Greaves Motorsport (BRUNDLE/BRUNDLE/ORDONEZ)[/COLOR]
  19. 45 Boutsen Ginion Racing (BRIERE/NAKANO/PETERSEN)
  20. 46 Thiriet by TDS Racing (BECHE/THIRIET/TINSEAU)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  21. 48 Murphy Prototypes (FIRTH/HUGHES/HARTLEY)
  22. 49 Pecom Racing (KAFFER/COMPANC/AYARI)[/COLOR]
  23. ? Deltawing (FRANCHITTI/KRUMM/MOTOYAMA)

GTE-Pro = 15 entries
  1. 51 AF Corse (BRUNI/FISICHELLA/MAKOWIECKI)
  2. 62 Extreme Speed Motorsports (VAN OVERBEEK/SHARP/VILANDER)
  3. 66 JMW Motorsport (WALKER/COCKER/WILLS)
  4. 71 AF Corse (BERETTA/BERTOLINI/MELO)
  5. 73 Corvette Racing (MAGNUSSEN/GARCIA/TAYLOR)
  6. 74 Corvette Racing (GAVIN/MILNER/WESTBROOK)
  7. 91 SRT Motorsports (FARNBACHER/WITTMER/BOMARITO)
  8. 93 SRT Motorsports (GOOSSENS/KENDALL/HUNTER-REAY)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 97 Aston Martin Racing (MUCKE/TURNER/SIMONSEN)
  10. 99 Aston Martin Racing (POULSEN/NYGAARD/HANCOCK)[/COLOR]
  11. ? McLaren (R. BELL/SIMS/PARENTE)
  12. ? McLaren (CAMPBELL-WALTER/CHRISTODOULOU/M. BELL)
  13. ? Team Manthey Porsche AG (PILET/HOLZER/BERGMEISTER)
  14. ? Team Manthey Porsche AG (DUMAS/LIEB/LIETZ)
  15. ? Kessel Racing (BRONISZEWSKI/PETER/RIGON)

GTE-Am = 14 entries
  1. 50 Larbre Competition (BORNHAUSER/CANAL/LAMY)
  2. 55 JWA-Avila (DANIELS/PALTALLA/CAMATHIAS)
  3. 57 Krohn Racing (KROHN/JONSSON/RUGOLO)
  4. 60 AF Corse (CIOCI/PERRAZINI/GRIFFIN)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  5. 61 AF Waltrip (WALTRIP/KAUFFMAN/VICKERS)
  6. 63 Extreme Speed Motorsports (BROWN/COSMO/AGUAS)[/COLOR]
  7. 67 IMSA Performance Matmut (PONS/ARMINDO/NARAC)
  8. 70 Larbre Competition (BELLOC/BOURRET/GIBON)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 75 Prospeed Competition (AL FAISAL/SOULET/VAN SPLUNTEREN)[/COLOR]
  10. 83 JMB Racing (RODRIGUES/ILLIANO/FERTE)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  11. 88 Team Felbermayr-Proton (RODA/RUBERTI/RIED)[/COLOR]
  12. 89 TRG (PUMPELLY/DI GUIDA/CURTIS)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  13. 98 Aston Martin Racing (GOETHE/WAINWRIGHT/HALL)[/COLOR]

NOT CLASSIFIED = 1 entry
  1. 0 GreenGT (?/?/?)

Legend:
Black: Confirmed/Le Mans invite
Green: Likely
Red: Possibility/Unlikely
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Old 6 Dec 2012, 23:10 (Ref:3175963)   #106
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Information explosion.

I haven't even heard ANYTHING about the Lexus LFA coming to Le Mans. I know that Acura is planning to launch a 2-3 car GTE factory program with world class drivers in 2014 in the WEC. Jaguar is planning the same as early as next year. I don't think the Bailey LMP2 car is going to happen... not enough updates on their website.

What about Kessel Racing? They're doing 3 cars in the Gulf 12 hours and were in the ELMS last year... could they possibly race in the 24 Hours of Le Mans with Broniszewski, Philipp Peter, and Davide Rigon?

What about the LMP2 Deltawing idea? Far out... but anything's possible.

I didn't know that Julian and Zugel left Greaves. I also didn't know about Sam Hancock... or Jorg Muller. Is there a possibility Hancock could go to AMR and race the Vantage like he did in 2011? In that case, the entry list is as follows...

LMP1 = 11 entries
  1. 1 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](LOTTERER/TRELUYER/FASSLER)[/COLOR]
  2. 2 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](MCNISH/KRISTENSEN/ROCKENFELLER)[/COLOR]
  3. 3 Audi Sport Team Joest [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](DUVAL/GENE/BERNHARD)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  4. 7 Toyota Racing (WURZ/NAKAJIMA/LAPIERRE)
  5. 8 Toyota Racing (DAVIDSON/BUEMI/SARRAZIN)
  6. 9 Toyota Racing (CALDARELLI/MONTAGNY/MINASSIAN)[/COLOR]
  7. 12 Rebellion Racing [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](PROST/HEIDFELD/JANI)[/COLOR]
  8. 13 Rebellion Racing [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"](PRIMAT/BELICCHI/BLEEKEMOLEN)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 15 OAK Racing (MOREAU/BAGUETTE/KRAIHAMER)
  10. 21 Strakka Racing (WATTS/LEVENTIS/KANE)
  11. 22 JRM (BRABHAM/DUMBRECK/CHANDHOK)[/COLOR]

LMP2 = 22 entries
  1. [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  2. 23 Signatech-Nissan (TRESSON/LOMBARD/MAILLEUX)[/COLOR]
  3. 24 OAK Racing (NICOLET/PLA/LAHAYE)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  4. 25 ADR-Delta (MARTIN/GRAVES/KERR)
  5. 26 Signatech-Nissan (RUSINOV/PANCIATICI/RAGUES)
  6. 27 Dempsey Racing (DEMPSEY/FOSTER/DEVLIN)
  7. 28 Gulf Racing Middle East (ROSTAN/BADEY/JOHANSSON)
  8. 29 Gulf Racing Middle East (DELETRAZ/IHARA/GIROIX)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
  9. 30 Status GP (JOUSSE/BUURMAN/IANETTA)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  10. 31 Lotus (HOLZER/SCHULTIS/MORO)
  11. 32 Lotus (ROSSITER/WEEDA/LIUZZI)[/COLOR][/COLOR]
  12. 33 Level 5 Motorsports (TUCKER/DIAZ/BOUCHUT)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  13. 35 OAK Racing (LEINDERS/ENJALBERT/HEINEMEIER-HANSSON)[/COLOR]
  14. 37 Conquest Endurance (PLOWMAN/LUX/HEYLEN)
  15. 38 Jota (DOLAN/?/?)
  16. 39 Jota (?/?/?)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  17. 40 Race Performance (HIRSCHI/MEICHTRY/FREY)[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  18. 42 Greaves Motorsport (BRUNDLE/BRUNDLE/ORDONEZ)[/COLOR]
  19. 45 Boutsen Ginion Racing (BRIERE/NAKANO/PETERSEN)
  20. 46 Thiriet by TDS Racing (BECHE/THIRIET/TINSEAU)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  21. 48 Murphy Prototypes (FIRTH/HUGHES/HARTLEY)
  22. 49 Pecom Racing (KAFFER/COMPANC/AYARI)[/COLOR]
  23. ? Deltawing (FRANCHITTI/KRUMM/MOTOYAMA)

GTE-Pro = 15 entries
  1. 51 AF Corse (BRUNI/FISICHELLA/MAKOWIECKI)
  2. 62 Extreme Speed Motorsports (VAN OVERBEEK/SHARP/VILANDER)
  3. 66 JMW Motorsport (WALKER/COCKER/WILLS)
  4. 71 AF Corse (BERETTA/BERTOLINI/MELO)
  5. 73 Corvette Racing (MAGNUSSEN/GARCIA/TAYLOR)
  6. 74 Corvette Racing (GAVIN/MILNER/WESTBROOK)
  7. 91 SRT Motorsports (FARNBACHER/WITTMER/BOMARITO)
  8. 93 SRT Motorsports (GOOSSENS/KENDALL/HUNTER-REAY)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 97 Aston Martin Racing (MUCKE/TURNER/SIMONSEN)
  10. 99 Aston Martin Racing (POULSEN/NYGAARD/HANCOCK)[/COLOR]
  11. ? McLaren (R. BELL/SIMS/PARENTE)
  12. ? McLaren (CAMPBELL-WALTER/CHRISTODOULOU/M. BELL)
  13. ? Team Manthey Porsche AG (PILET/HOLZER/BERGMEISTER)
  14. ? Team Manthey Porsche AG (DUMAS/LIEB/LIETZ)
  15. ? Kessel Racing (BRONISZEWSKI/PETER/RIGON)

GTE-Am = 14 entries
  1. 50 Larbre Competition (BORNHAUSER/CANAL/LAMY)
  2. 55 JWA-Avila (DANIELS/PALTALLA/CAMATHIAS)
  3. 57 Krohn Racing (KROHN/JONSSON/RUGOLO)
  4. 60 AF Corse (CIOCI/PERRAZINI/GRIFFIN)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  5. 61 AF Waltrip (WALTRIP/KAUFFMAN/VICKERS)
  6. 63 Extreme Speed Motorsports (BROWN/COSMO/AGUAS)[/COLOR]
  7. 67 IMSA Performance Matmut (PONS/ARMINDO/NARAC)
  8. 70 Larbre Competition (BELLOC/BOURRET/GIBON)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  9. 75 Prospeed Competition (AL FAISAL/SOULET/VAN SPLUNTEREN)[/COLOR]
  10. 83 JMB Racing (RODRIGUES/ILLIANO/FERTE)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  11. 88 Team Felbermayr-Proton (RODA/RUBERTI/RIED)[/COLOR]
  12. 89 TRG (PUMPELLY/DI GUIDA/CURTIS)
    [COLOR="rgb(46, 139, 87)"]
  13. 98 Aston Martin Racing (GOETHE/WAINWRIGHT/HALL)[/COLOR]

NOT CLASSIFIED = 1 entry
  1. 0 GreenGT (?/?/?)

Legend:
Black: Confirmed/Le Mans invite
Green: Likely
Red: Possibility/Unlikely
Argggh... formatting problems. I'll fix it tomorrow... I've got things to do.
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If Philipp Peter shows up he will suffer the wrath of Marco Holzer.
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Also, if you're so insistent on having the Vipers on your list, one thing to note: there is NO. FREAKING. WAY. that Ryan Hunter-Reay will be racing at Le Mans next year. Not when he has an Indycar title to defend and there's a 120% possibility that an Indycar race will clash either with the Le Mans test day or with the race itself.
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That list exceeds the 56 cars grid capacity. You also have Makowiecki and Melo with AF Corse, Melo is no longer a factory driver and Mako has never been one. And Vilander with ESM? I really doubt that's going to happen in a race where AF Corse is present.
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Beetle, you have a Pro-Am lineup in the 99 AMR Vantage. I wouldn't bother with an entry list for at least another month if I were you. There is too much uncertainty, realistically 60% of the text in that list is either red or green, especially in the GT classes.
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Beetle, you have a Pro-Am lineup in the 99 AMR Vantage. I wouldn't bother with an entry list for at least another month if I were you. There is too much uncertainty, realistically 60% of the text in that list is either red or green, especially in the GT classes.
Well if you don't think I should bother, don't comment in the first place.

I just finished talking with Simmi about this... I appreciate constructive criticism, but to say my thread is pretty much pointless is not necessary.
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Just because you start a thread doesn't mean that it is then 'your' thread. It is a public forum and people are allowed to disagree with or question the things you put.

I apologise for what you deemed to be overly pessimistic comments. I'll now only look to add to this thread constructively, but it's clearly not just me who feels that way.
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Beetle is just on a power-trip with this thread. A thread of this caliber (see thread title) needs to be more than one guy posting a different entry list every couple of hours after he has a daydream.

Start with confirmations and work your way to 56. Don't start with 100 cars and work your way to 70...
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Just because you start a thread doesn't mean that it is then 'your' thread. It is a public forum and people are allowed to disagree with or question the things you put.

I apologise for what you deemed to be overly pessimistic comments. I'll now only look to add to this thread constructively, but it's clearly not just me who feels that way.
Thank you. I'm not trying to be a dictator of this thread, but constructive thoughts, links, and ideas about driver lineups, teams participating or not, and things of that nature are really the only things necessary.

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Beetle is just on a power-trip with this thread. A thread of this caliber (see thread title) needs to be more than one guy posting a different entry list every couple of hours after he has a daydream.

Start with confirmations and work your way to 56. Don't start with 100 cars and work your way to 70...
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First official writeup of the 2013 24 Hours of Le Mans Entry List. Available in Word 2010 and PDF. 59 entries, the 3 reserves being...

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Also, if you're so insistent on having the Vipers on your list, one thing to note: there is NO. FREAKING. WAY. that Ryan Hunter-Reay will be racing at Le Mans next year. Not when he has an Indycar title to defend and there's a 120% possibility that an Indycar race will clash either with the Le Mans test day or with the race itself.
That's a very good point. Who do you think would be a suitable replacement? And if it would be a gentleman driver, wouldn't that delegate the #93 to GTE-Am? That would be a crying shame.
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That's a very good point. Who do you think would be a suitable replacement? And if it would be a gentleman driver, wouldn't that delegate the #93 to GTE-Am? That would be a crying shame.
Impossible, a factory team would go to Le Mans with cars in the latest possible specification and those are not allowed in GTE-Am.
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Well if you don't think I should bother, don't comment in the first place.

I just finished talking with Simmi about this... I appreciate constructive criticism, but to say my thread is pretty much pointless is not necessary.

And in my opinion it certainly isn't. I love the debate and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all - it brings June 2013 that little bit closer all the time - keep at it!!
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Beetle is just on a power-trip with this thread. A thread of this caliber (see thread title) needs to be more than one guy posting a different entry list every couple of hours after he has a daydream.

Start with confirmations and work your way to 56. Don't start with 100 cars and work your way to 70...

Cobblers. There is nothing to stop anyone adding to the thread. At least give Beetle credit for having a go. Some people are just never satisfied......
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And in my opinion it certainly isn't. I love the debate and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all - it brings June 2013 that little bit closer all the time - keep at it!!
Agreed why some people are chastised for being enthusiastic and contributing is beyond me. Its great to watch the entry list gradually develop from pure speculation to the actual thing.
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Cobblers. There is nothing to stop anyone adding to the thread. At least give Beetle credit for having a go. Some people are just never satisfied......
Well said - its all in the title - 'speculation'
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Looks like if Rebellion do compete with two cars then Mathias Beche will be part of the driver line-up. Might make sense to swap him out with Bleekemolen on the list at this stage?

Been good to see Beche progress and move up the ranks. Second in class on his debut this year. 8th overall. He's definitely got the pace.
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I just finished talking with Simmi about this... I appreciate constructive criticism, but to say my thread is pretty much pointless is not necessary.
Big misunderstanding. I never said it was pointless, just that maybe now wasn't the time to do it. There was a post where you said:
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Argggh... formatting problems. I'll fix it tomorrow... I've got things to do.
The point I was trying to make was that it would be far less frustrating to take it on in another month or so. Don't feel like you need to update the list every day or after every change. I know it must be time consuming and frustrating to do. I imagine most of us here are rather busy (I know I am) and could not handle taking on such a tedious task in our free time. I appreciate that you are taking the time to do it. I had typed out a response earlier but hit the backspace key and ended up going back a few pages instead of spaces. Perhaps my frustration from that lead to my ultimate comment coming off terse and impolite, apologies. Anyway, as you were, crack on.
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Fair enough......

On with the show.....
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And in my opinion it certainly isn't. I love the debate and there's absolutely nothing wrong with it at all - it brings June 2013 that little bit closer all the time - keep at it!!
I agree! Any way to pass the time!

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Agreed why some people are chastised for being enthusiastic and contributing is beyond me. Its great to watch the entry list gradually develop from pure speculation to the actual thing.
Hopefully you don't mean chastised by me! I'm all for constructive criticism, just not trolling.

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Well said - its all in the title - 'speculation'
Exactly! This isn't supposed to be the actual entry list... I could do that but that would be around 10 cars... what fun is that?

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Looks like if Rebellion do compete with two cars then Mathias Beche will be part of the driver line-up. Might make sense to swap him out with Bleekemolen on the list at this stage?

Been good to see Beche progress and move up the ranks. Second in class on his debut this year. 8th overall. He's definitely got the pace.
That would put Bleekemolen out of the running for Rebellion unless Rebellion can't find a 3rd driver for the #12 either. Good news on Mathias Beche... always thought he was a fast, consistent driver worthy of LMP1 racing.

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Big misunderstanding. I never said it was pointless, just that maybe now wasn't the time to do it. There was a post where you said: The point I was trying to make was that it would be far less frustrating to take it on in another month or so. Don't feel like you need to update the list every day or after every change. I know it must be time consuming and frustrating to do. I imagine most of us here are rather busy (I know I am) and could not handle taking on such a tedious task in our free time. I appreciate that you are taking the time to do it. I had typed out a response earlier but hit the backspace key and ended up going back a few pages instead of spaces. Perhaps my frustration from that lead to my ultimate comment coming off terse and impolite, apologies. Anyway, as you were, crack on.
Thank you very much! Same with me, actually... I was already a bit frustrated putting out fires about the exact same problem with some other users. So I was probably overly harsh myself... oh dear, dear, dear.

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On with the show.....
Right... the last few days have been a big misunderstanding on this thread. I appreciate all of your really helpful comments, guys! The thread, unfortunately, gathered some unpopular attention as well.

So...

I posted the link to the new entry list. Can you view it fine? It's just a lot easier for me to format Microsoft Word than the forum posts. Plus it looks a lot better.

Again, thank you guys for sticking with this thread through it's trials and tribulations.
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