[BTCC] BTCC 2021

[FIRE]

You are right about the hybrid factor.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by codename_47

If that happens, ushering Plato into a quiet retirement without ITV fawning all over him any more will be one of the few positives of the corona virus

Cutting!

TBH, I do wonder if JP will be back: his backing required hospitality provision. I genuinely do not see next spring into early summer being much different from now virus wise. So unless Governments decide they've being talking b0110cks and that we should spread the lurgy and get on with life (and death) then we'll be locked up in our rabbit hutches mostly. So that knackers that. The other possibility is Mr Deal himself finds alternate backing where stickers on a car is enough to satisfy the backer. If JP can't work up a deal then God help the rest of the grid.

[antnee]

100% agree - if anyone can find a way, it will be JP that does it.

[3marinadrive]

Originally Posted by redshoes

There are some rules around this type of promotion. It's not strictly a raffle, there has to be a test of skill involved, so to enter you need to answer a quiz question. It's a HARD question, but not a hard question - Who is Managing Director at Team HARD. Racing?

There also has to be an option for a free entry, which is cunningly disguised as white text on a white background! Just get 5000 of your closest friends to send in a postcard to ensure all the tickets are taken.

If anyone has a spare £20 rather than enter the Team HARD raffle could I politely suggest sending it to the aid of Colin Turner who was seriously injured in the Walter Hayes Trophy last week and has a Just Giving page set up.....

[medius]

Originally Posted by redshoes

Gilham tried that with the S2000 Vectra several years ago. That all went quiet after a while.

It went quiet because Ian Harrison booted Tony out of the team when his cheque bounced and he sent Tony's email into the spam folder. Gilham never owned the car to be raffled in the first place.

[Evantra]

https://www.facebook.com/566727566/p...8630264267567/

Sounds like Ciceley may be out...

[S griffin]

Be a massive shame if that was the case, they’ve always done well against the better budget teams. Wonder where Morgan would go?

[porsche962fan]

or simply car change ?

[thetool]

Originally Posted by S griffin

Wonder where Morgan would go?

Ciceley is Morgan. No Ciceley, no Morgan.

[S griffin]

I think Morgan has shown enough talent that he could find another berth, providing he has the backing

[thetool]

How many times does it have to be said that it is not about talent. Morgan is on the grid because he has the money to be on the grid and chooses to do so through his own team. A choice he has made for six years now.

It's not impossible that he would choose to spend his money to drive for another team, but it's not likely.

[peebee2]

Keep calm Tool! Although I know it’s frustrating that others are so innocent...

Yes, Cicely is Morgan’s Dad, and a Merc Commercial dealer.

I think for them, like a lot, it’s all about hospitality so there must be a lot of challenges and problems.

[Millvi]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

or simply car change ?

That’s what I think. There’s been rumours in the pit lane about a new car for them for 2021. The A class has had a bit of a resurgence this season but it’s more than a tad long in the tooth isn’t it?

Hopefully nothing worrying about the upcoming race weekend or the 2021 season.

[S griffin]

If they do decide to ditch the Merc I wonder what they switch to? Something old or something new?

[Matt K]

Hopefully this 'cryptic message' of Ciceley will be just a farewell to Mercedes A and confirmation of a car change. However, given tight budgets in BTCC, often relying on hospitality, I'm afraid the BTCC may be unrecognisable in 2021. The pandemic won't stop next year and everyone will be touched by it but most of the BTCC teams seem too fragile. Hopefully I'm only just over-pessimistic here.

[Millvi]

Originally Posted by S griffin

If they do decide to ditch the Merc I wonder what they switch to? Something old or something new?

A Mercedes saloon? Anything suitable though? I did wonder about another pair of RWD saloon cars...BMW or Infiniti perhaps?

[S griffin]

Could do. Or maybe a Ford? They could do quite well with them

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Millvi

A Mercedes saloon? Anything suitable though? I did wonder about another pair of RWD saloon cars...BMW or Infiniti perhaps?

Having seen the success of Oliphant moving to a RWD saloon, and Laser Tools switching to a RWD saloon, then I would imagine a C-Class might be an option to consider?

[Millvi]

Originally Posted by crmalcolm

Having seen the success of Oliphant moving to a RWD saloon, and Laser Tools switching to a RWD saloon, then I would imagine a C-Class might be an option to consider?

Makes sense to me.

[porsche962fan]

or cheaply the OLD Infinitis

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Millvi

A Mercedes saloon? Anything suitable though? I did wonder about another pair of RWD saloon cars...BMW or Infiniti perhaps?

A Class saloon will probably offer better aero than the hatch and is a fairly short by today's standards car. I could see this being a thing.

I still believe a good FWD car can match an RWD car over a season.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by porsche962fan

or cheaply the OLD Infinitis

I wouldn't imagine that is likely.

They're not viable as a competitive car, hence the redesign by Laser/BMR.

Plus, Ciceley previously put a block on Laser doing any development on the A-Class, so I can't imagine A1 would allow Ciceley to develop the 2014 Q50s.

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by Alfisti

A Class saloon will probably offer better aero than the hatch and is a fairly short by today's standards car. I could see this being a thing.

True, but isn't the C-Class closer in length to the 2 cars leading the championship this season?

[codename_47]

Originally Posted by 3marinadrive

If anyone has a spare £20 rather than enter the Team HARD raffle could I politely suggest sending it to the aid of Colin Turner who was seriously injured in the Walter Hayes Trophy last week and has a Just Giving page set up.....

What happened here?

A quick google has revealed zippidy squat about it, perhaps a sad indication on how far FFord has fallen since its glory days
(Though the FFestival had a live stream so that at least wants to slightly play ball with the modern world.
If the WHT had one too, I couldn't find it)

I know people don't tend to want to elaborate around crashes if they end up being serious but considering there is little other information, maybe a bit more detail will help explain exactly what happened?

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by codename_47

What happened here?

A quick google has revealed zippidy squat about it, perhaps a sad indication on how far FFord has fallen since its glory days
(Though the FFestival had a live stream so that at least wants to slightly play ball with the modern world.
If the WHT had one too, I couldn't find it)

I know people don't tend to want to elaborate around crashes if they end up being serious but considering there is little other information, maybe a bit more detail will help explain exactly what happened?

https://www.autosport.com/national/n...er-hayes-crash