[Official] Monaco Grand Prix 2019: Grand Prix Weekend Thread

[MCWB]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

The US doesn't do unsafe releases

Um, what? Indycar rulebook 7.11.1.10. Unsafe release of a Car from its Pit Box

[Adam43]

Hey I am loving this radio moaning montage!

Well done Lewis. Top race.

[Mike Harte]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

I personally would still penalise the driver, as it is a team sport.

However, I'm really not a fan of the unsafe release stuff. I understand why it's there, but it gives an inherent advantage to the team with the earliest pit stall. If you come in nose to tail, pit stops are only 2 seconds long, then you have no chance of jumping a spot without an unsafe release.

The US doesn't do unsafe releases, and I'm not sure WEC or ELMS do? Someone can correct me on that.

Regardless of whether other series also have the same rules, you need to bear in mind that the unsafe release rules cover more than just letting your car go out when it could possibly cause a collision. It also covers such things as a wheel not being properly affixed or other such potential dangerous actions.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by MCWB

Um, what? Indycar rulebook 7.11.1.10. Unsafe release of a Car from its Pit Box

Internet winner!

Although the style is different, I believe, in how it is used. Although this could be down to the style of pit lanes.

[Akrapovic]

Originally Posted by MCWB

Um, what? Indycar rulebook 7.11.1.10. Unsafe release of a Car from its Pit Box

Context to my comment is key.

The US doesn't penalise in the context of an F1 unsafe release.

In F1, almost every car in these videos would have been penalised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeY2QvEty8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxv8vHThu14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5h00xcHLQ

[broadrun96]

Originally Posted by Akrapovic

Context to my comment is key.

The US doesn't penalise in the context of an F1 unsafe release.

In F1, almost every car in these videos would have been penalised:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeY2QvEty8g
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wxv8vHThu14
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ql5h00xcHLQ

It is definitely used much less, I'm trying to remember any Indycar and think I've seen 1 every race this season in F1.

[F1Pete]

Did I see Princess Charlene wink at Bottas when she walked across the podium to hand Vettel his trophy? I rewound it several times. Bottas didn't wink back lol!

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[sparkione]

Originally Posted by Adam43

Hey I am loving this radio moaning montage!

Well done Lewis. Top race.

Just so. He always moans in these situations but he gets the job done. It's hard to overstate how difficult that was for him. It was no procession, it was a master-class in race driving and car control from an all-time great. Niki would have been proud of him.

[ApexTurtle]

Originally Posted by sparkione

Just so. He always moans in these situations but he gets the job done. It's hard to overstate how difficult that was for him. It was no procession, it was a master-class in race driving and car control from an all-time great. Niki would have been proud of him.

My word...

[djinvicta]

Put the F1 on Sky at 10am this morning..Just switched off at 10pm as Sky F1 ran the live Indianapolis 500 straight after..Eyes now blurred...

[P38 in workshop]

So can we now say that Red Bull have leapfrogged Ferrari in the pecking order?I know its an abnormal circuit but Gasly holding the fastest lap and Verstappen pushing hard would seem to be a positive sign.Honda have definitely had a productive few months too.

[GT6]

Well race showed nothing really other than the top three teams are massively better than the rest

[ApexTurtle]

Originally Posted by P38 in workshop

So can we now say that Red Bull have leapfrogged Ferrari in the pecking order?I know its an abnormal circuit but Gasly holding the fastest lap and Verstappen pushing hard would seem to be a positive sign.Honda have definitely had a productive few months too.

Not even close, remember same race this year Red Bull beat Ferrari as well.

[Aysedasi]

Gasly's fastest lap was just the product of new tires in a no-lose situation.....

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by P38 in workshop

So can we now say that Red Bull have leapfrogged Ferrari in the pecking order?I know its an abnormal circuit but Gasly holding the fastest lap and Verstappen pushing hard would seem to be a positive sign.Honda have definitely had a productive few months too.

It’s certainly closer than Ferrari would like. In race conditions Max found it easier to hustle than Seb.

The FL was just a product of having a gap to fit softs and go for it.

On that it was a shame Merc didn’t let Bottas have a go after Gasly had stopped and created a gap for him.

[Richard C]

Its premature to say Honda has leapfrogged Ferrari in the power unit department. Monaco is just too different of a beast. But, kudos to Honda regardless.

Richard

[Tourer]

Near miss between Sergio Perez coming out of pit lane during SC and a couple of marshals - wow, that was c-l-o-s-e.
Really glad that all ended up OK but man their heart rates would all have been way up there afterwards!

[HDTVKSS]

so much moaning in that race even the porn stars watching were embarrassed..

[Richard C]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Near miss between Sergio Perez coming out of pit lane during SC and a couple of marshals - wow, that was c-l-o-s-e.
Really glad that all ended up OK but man their heart rates would all have been way up there afterwards!

That was scary. Nearly a huge accident.

Richard

[VIVA GT]

Originally Posted by F1Pete

Did I see Princess Charlene wink at Bottas when she walked across the podium to hand Vettel his trophy? I rewound it several times. Bottas didn't wink back lol!

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I think there is a bit of chemistry between the two of them, I spotted that (I think) last year she couldn't take her eyes off him. (Mind you, I struggle taking my eyes off her too!)

[gert]

Originally Posted by Adam43

The FL was just a product of having a gap to fit softs and go for it.

On that it was a shame Merc didn’t let Bottas have a go after Gasly had stopped and created a gap for him.

They couldn't do that as Bottas had to stay within 5 seconds of Max to get the 3rd place instead of 4th.

[Adam43]

Originally Posted by gert

They couldn't do that as Bottas had to stay within 5 seconds of Max to get the 3rd place instead of 4th.

Of course, good point. He’d have to caught back up. Which might have been possible, Gasly was 9.9s behind he winner at the end, but it was probably too risky.

[JacobP]

Originally Posted by P38 in workshop

So can we now say that Red Bull have leapfrogged Ferrari in the pecking order?I know its an abnormal circuit but Gasly holding the fastest lap and Verstappen pushing hard would seem to be a positive sign.Honda have definitely had a productive few months too.

I think there still is no definitive proof of this yet. But in my subjective opinion, Red Bull is on the rise with each race while Ferrari is in disarray this season. I believe, and would like to bet, that Verstappen will leapfrog Vettel by the end of season.

[Peter Mallett]

Did anyone spot EJ's verdict on the current Ferrari management? He suggested that Ferrari should re employ Stefano Domenicali.

[JacobP]

Originally Posted by GT6

Well race showed nothing really other than the top three teams are massively better than the rest

I need to scratch my head and wonder when in the past, after 1970s perhaps, this has not been the case. I really don't understand when people wonder why every F1 race can't end in a 10-team draw. This just won't happen, in any sport.