ERC Lydden Hill 2009, what's the news?

[1975DCS]

Hey Rallycross fans!

What is the program, entrylist and even better the latest news for the ERC held in Lydden Hill in April 2009? The clock is now ticking rapidly, but still no news? I think it is great the season starts so early, no more long periods of waiting! Hope the weather will be nice, dough...

[westfieldbend]

well we don't even know the results of the fia inspection?

You can get a rough idea of the timetable from the fia sporting regulations:

Saturday
08 :00-09 :00 Secretariat opens
Administrative checking and
scrutineering (by waiver of the
Clerk of the Course)
(...) 1st Stewards’ meeting
(time/time) Free practice (1h)
Break
(time/time) Free practice (1h)
(time/time) Official timed practice
(...) 2nd Stewards’ meeting
16:00 1st Heat begins
Sunday
(time/time) Warm up
(time) 2nd Heat begins
(time) 3rd Heat begins
(...) 3rd Stewards’ meeting
(time) Drivers’ Presentation
15:00 (at the latest) Finals
(...) Podium (place)
4th Stewards’ meeting
(time) Prize-giving (place)

just change Saturday for Sunday and Sunday for Monday i suppose

on the erc website there is a list of competitors presumably those registered for the championship which may give a rough idea of what to expect in terms of entries.

[1975DCS]

Ok, but I can remember from earlier visits that the timetables where different in England because of the Church?

[westfieldbend]

on Sundays at lydden we cant start till 12:30 but on a Monday its 9am
(from what i gather erc Saturdays start at 12:30 anyway?)

[mivec]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

well we don't even know the results of the fia inspection?

Does this mean if the event takes place or not?

[mivec]

From the Lydden Hill entry form:

The entry must reach the organiser by:

27. 03. 2009 Entry fee: € 150
Entry fee for later entry: € 250

So let's hope there is an entry list at march 28.

[1975DCS]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

well we don't even know the results of the fia inspection?

Damn... Didn't see this line... This means we cannot book the ferry and hotel this week...

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

well we don't even know the results of the fia inspection?

If I understood this correctly the FIA carried out their inspection last year at the BRC? They concluded at the end of last year that Lydden would be suitable venue providing a number of modifications/changes to be made to the existing circuit layout.

Any forthcoming FIA "inspections" are surely just to verify that all the changes specfied have been complied with, aren't they?

[westfieldbend]

Originally Posted by tbtstt

If I understood this correctly the FIA carried out their inspection last year at the BRC? They concluded at the end of last year that Lydden would be suitable venue providing a number of modifications/changes to be made to the existing circuit layout.

Any forthcoming FIA "inspections" are surely just to verify that all the changes specfied have been complied with, aren't they?

nope that was the fia candidate event, to decide which 10 rounds are on the calendar in 2009.

the inspection in February was to check the circuit meets the fia circuits standards, which i guess the candidate event in specified that they must meet rather then individual changes required.

or maybe i haven't got a clue what i'm on about....

[tbtstt]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

nope that was the fia candidate event, to decide which 10 rounds are on the calendar in 2009.

the inspection in February was to check the circuit meets the fia circuits standards, which i guess the candidate event in specified that they must meet rather then individual changes required.

Bugger. I got that a bit wrong then...

...thanks for the clarification westfieldbend!

[WJM]

The lack of information for this event is appaling, especially considering that it's the season opener. No news, no timetable, no entries, no supp regulations, no posters or any other promotions. Come on, these things cost very little effort but would help a great deal for everybody.

[MESHGA]

Originally Posted by WJM

The lack of information for this event is appaling, especially considering that it's the season opener. No news, no timetable, no entries, no supp regulations, no posters or any other promotions. Come on, these things cost very little effort but would help a great deal for everybody.

Well this is the British round ! what makes you think a euro round would make a long time Rallycross body act faster than normal ??? HeHe !
On a different note what do you folks out there think the attendance figures are going to be? will it cover the cost of track mods and prize money?
I think its great we have a euro round again and fair play to Pat ,Linsey ,Amy and Liam for doing something about it Wish i could of done the same and hope we can keep it for many years too

[tbtstt]

The commentator at Lydden (during the Winter Rallycross) gave a timetable pretty much as described above; half 12 start for heats on the Sunday and a start at 9 the rest of the heats and finals on the Monday.

Although a lot of work seemed to have been done on the circuit, it also seemed apparent that a lot of work was still underway, work which I'm sure the final thumbs up from the FIA will be dependant on.

The slow speed of information can be a bit annoying (especially as I would happily volunteer to post information/updates up on websites such as this and Facebook etc.), but I guess theres a lot of organisation (and time) going into the circuit modification and FIA red tape, so the details may not even be clear to the organisers until the last minute.

[leonidas]

Originally Posted by WJM

The lack of information for this event is appaling, especially considering that it's the season opener. No news, no timetable, no entries, no supp regulations, no posters or any other promotions. Come on, these things cost very little effort but would help a great deal for everybody.

Welcome to British rallycross! We poor Brits have had to put up with this sort of nonsense for years so I don't see why you European chaps shouldn't!
If we're lucky the entry list will appear a couple of days before the event and if we're really lucky it may include some of the drivers who actually turn up!

Funny how we've been campaigning for ERC classes in British rallycross for years and then when we get an ERC round they bring in Rage buggies which aren't approved for ANY rallycross championship let alone the ERC. You couldn't make it up...

[westfieldbend]

and to make you all happy rage buggy's are the support category!!

[Barrie]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

and to make you all happy rage buggy's are the support category!!

Fantastic having the ERC round back, shame we couldn t have had the Scandanavian Supernationals over as a support event.

[mivec]

Originally Posted by Barrie

Fantastic having the ERC round back, shame we couldn t have had the Scandanavian Supernationals over as a support event.

You could have a fantastic support class: Supermodified!
I want to see cars, not buggy's.

[westfieldbend]

Originally Posted by mivec

You could have a fantastic support class: Supermodified!
I want to see cars, not buggy's.

Go to the paddock when the buggy's are out then, i guess there wont be much of a lunch break.

Have no problem with them at British championship but i think we could have sorted something better out for erc rather then arrive and drive buggy's.

[Chessmsport]

Originally Posted by mivec

You could have a fantastic support class: Supermodified!
I want to see cars, not buggy's.

Have to agree, what a shame that British rallycrossers that dont have euro spec cars can't be the support event at a RALLYCROSS.

[Hi Low]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

and to make you all happy rage buggy's are the support category!!

THIS HAS TO BE A VERY EARLY APRIL FOOLS JOKE. NO WAY. We will be the laugthing stock of Europen Rallycross if they race, no, follow my leader. please some body put an end to this British Rallycross Can put on a better show than this

[HrRACING]

What about 1a :P

[bigted]

Andy Grant - homologation ended
Aiden McCullagh - ineligble - Subaru engine in a Peugeot
Mike Manning - unsure?
Chris Langley - homologation ended
Steve Mundy - unsure?
Christopher Evans - will be there
George Tracey - no chance
John Mckluskey - no car?
David Binks - ineligble - More Than eligible
Brian Jukes - ineligble - spaceframe - Not Spaceframe, but still ineligible
Derrick Jobb - homologation ended - was never Div 1 spec due to dash and exhausts
Eddie Kinirons - unsure?
Tommy Graham - no reason why not!
Mad Mark Watson - see above
Bob Gooding - car not ready? spec at as show wasnt Div 1 - Dash
Pat Doran - will be there
Liam Doran - will be there
Steve Hill - will be there
Michael Morris - homologation ended
Andrew Morris - homologation ended
Paul Pascoe - homologation ended
Paul Grogan - unsure but I think homologation ended
Kyle Orr - unsure
Declan Kelly - unsure
Kevin Procter - will be there
Tony Bardy - spannering maybe!
Simon Horton - homologation ended
Kevin Macan - homologation ended
Will Gollop - not homologated - How isnt a Focus homologated?

[Kevin McCann]

Originally Posted by bigted

Andy Grant - homologation ended
Aiden McCullagh - ineligble - Subaru engine in a Peugeot
Mike Manning - unsure?
Chris Langley - homologation ended
Steve Mundy - unsure?
Christopher Evans - will be there
George Tracey - no chance
John Mckluskey - no car?
David Binks - ineligble - More Than eligible
Brian Jukes - ineligble - spaceframe - Not Spaceframe, but still ineligible
Derrick Jobb - homologation ended - was never Div 1 spec due to dash and exhausts
Eddie Kinirons - unsure?
Tommy Graham - no reason why not!
Mad Mark Watson - see above
Bob Gooding - car not ready? spec at as show wasnt Div 1 - Dash
Pat Doran - will be there
Liam Doran - will be there
Steve Hill - will be there
Michael Morris - homologation ended
Andrew Morris - homologation ended
Paul Pascoe - homologation ended
Paul Grogan - unsure but I think homologation ended
Kyle Orr - unsure
Declan Kelly - unsure
Kevin Procter - will be there
Tony Bardy - spannering maybe!
Simon Horton - homologation ended
Kevin Macan - homologation ended
Will Gollop - not homologated - How isnt a Focus homologated?

According to my paperwork my car is homologated, unless youre not talking about mine!!![ Check spelling, and you Andy should know better].

[1975DCS]

We (me and my dad) booked our hotel in Folkestone and ferry from Dunkerke! So after a very long periode absence we will finally return to Lydden! The last time we went here was 1996 and 1990 (when my favourite Alamaki was not showing up).

I kinda hoping of a massive entrance for this ERC, but fingers are crossed because of the economical crisis currently hitting Europe. But we will have to wait end see who will be showing up...

I do hope Gollop brings out his Focus either driven by himself or Andrew Jordans. Last time this car drove in Europe it failed to impress, but if you see the footage of the car in Lydden it should be flying, just like is old 306 until recently still seems to do...

On Motors TV I saw some Eddy and he was driving the old Koutny car, so who is he and which car from Koutney is this?

Greeting,
Daniël and Ad

[rallyxdamo]

On Motors TV I saw some Eddy and he was driving the old Koutny car, so who is he and which car from Koutney is this?

Greeting,
Daniël and Ad[/quote]

It's Eddie Kinirons from kildare, Ireland. The car is the one koutny used in the 2007 ERC Championship. The car has since undergone a major rebuild at the hands of Tony Phillips, Paul Tierney and a few more from the UK.
Hope that helps you.