BTCC finale back on GP loop?

[mini1400]

With the British Superbikes being cancelled today, JP now has a free GP loop day avaliable....

Soooo.. will the BTCC be back on the GP loop, or will they come up with another excuse

[Alfa Fan]

"I have been very eager however to see if we could find a way not to just cancel, but postpone the first Brands Hatch event. Fortunately a major benefit of MSV now running BSB is that following a review of our calendar, I am delighted to be able to immediately announce that we have rescheduled this meeting which will now take place on the Brands Hatch Grand Prix circuit on 10/11 May."

[westfieldbend]

that weekend was a GP date anyway, they have just thrown bemsee off , so we have a spare day in theory.

[crmalcolm]

They'll probably upgrade the October BSB date to run on the GP circuit also. It would seem fair to run BTCC finale on GP but it will probably not happen.
Maybe I'm cynical but preference seems to be placed on bikes running on a longer circuit to cars in this country.

[westfieldbend]

they will not have enogth days to do that..we only have one spare, the circuit was still used friday and saturday.

[Bramzel]

Why would you even want them on the GP loop? Doesn't WTCC vs. BTCC show that the Indy circuit gives much better racing?

[westfieldbend]

so i can actually see the track without someones head being in the way all the time.

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by westfieldbend

that weekend was a GP date anyway, they have just thrown bemsee off , so we have a spare day in theory.

Not totally thrown off - "The 10/11 May date was scheduled to be a BMCRC meeting and some races from this will be incorporated into the BSB event." I don't know enough about bike racing to know what that means in practice.

As I recall the BTCC's problem was a lack of testing dates for the support races. One less race day used isn't going to change that.

[bludvl_x19]

Just a clarifier for an Aussie, am I correct in saying the GP loop iis the full circuit, and the Indy track leaves the GP at ~4 and rejoins at the last turn?

Cheers,

Mick

[redshoes]

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

Just a clarifier for an Aussie, am I correct in saying the GP loop iis the full circuit, and the Indy track leaves the GP at ~4 and rejoins at the last turn?

That's correct. The Indy is the kidney shaped short layout.

[bludvl_x19]

Thanks. Why doesn't the BTCC and the WTCC run on the full track? Is it too long for them? It seems quite long on racing sims (my only experience of Brands Hatch) but by the same token, the Indy circuit seems rather short.

Mick

[redshoes]

WTCC do use the full track, BTCC tend not to.

BTCC generally prefer shorter circuits as the spectators get to see more of the cars more often. On the Brands GP loop the cars are out of view of the majority of spectators for nearly half a lap. It's the same story at Silverstone, Oulton and Donington where BTCC use the shorter layout.

BTCC was going to use the GP track this year but there's a problem over how often it can be used. Most of the GP track is very close to a housing estate, which means it can only be used for a small number of days per year.

[bludvl_x19]

Alright, thanks for that.

I now return you to the original direction of the thread

Cheers,

Mick

[werner]

Thats not the only reason. If you check Brands Hatch at google earth, you can see that there are some houses very near the longer GP-loop of the circuit. To limit the noise (or 'sounds' or maybe even 'music' as we like to think of them) for the residents of those houses the use of the GP-loop is limited.
I think it's a shame the BTCC doesn't use it, because good racing is perfectly possible on the GP-loop as well, it gives drivers an extra challenge and it's just nice to have more variety in general.

[bludvl_x19]

I'm guessing those residents bought their property, and then decided they didn't like the track that was there first, so kick up a stink and get the race programs changed. Sound about right? We have a similar situation at a couple of tracks over here...

Mick

[crmalcolm]

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

I'm guessing those residents bought their property, and then decided they didn't like the track that was there first, so kick up a stink and get the race programs changed. Sound about right? We have a similar situation at a couple of tracks over here...

Mick

Pretty much the case. In this country we get it with people who buy houses near race circuits, airports, military bases etc...

Unfortunately local authorities tend to side with residents rather than facilities that help drive the local economy.

Back to thread - because the GP loop was used on Fri & Sat, does that count as a whole weekend on the loop?

[stedevil]

Originally Posted by bludvl_x19

Sound about right?

Yupp, it's a complete joke IMO. If the track is there from the start, any such complaints should be legally invalid. If you are not a petrol head, don't buy/build your house right next to a racing track.

[bludvl_x19]

+1. There is a certain rural track near where I live that has city people buying hobby farms nearby, and then when they come up on the weekend they hear the noise and complain that it is ruining their weekends. Stiff **** I say, it was there first!

Mick

[awrb]

I live relatively near a football ground. Fans are quite loud.

I say only 4 football matches are to be held there every year.

Something tells me my proposal will get rejected.

Mainly cos I don't live near a football ground.. I made it up to get my point across.

[touringlegend]

Politicians would have you believe football isn't a rich mans sport like racing.

Yeah right!