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Old 21 Oct 2019, 03:38 (Ref:3935977)   #1801
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McLaren's 5 year deal with Petrobras is coming to a very sudden end.
Talk about slippery nipples......
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Old 29 Nov 2019, 16:59 (Ref:3943714)   #1802
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According to Autosport, BAT branding to increase significantly for 2020 season.....

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Old 29 Nov 2019, 19:36 (Ref:3943735)   #1803
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so basically a big deal will be made about it during the launch and winter testing but as soon as they get to Australia the Crown will file some sort law suit and there will be a modified/more subtle livery going forward.

big tobacco gets its publicity, the team gets much needed sponsorship money, and some fans will buy the 'cool' team kit before the kit is changed.

if im being honest i think this is as good compromise as we are ever going to get. cant pretend that cig companies dont have a long and important part to play in motor sports history and teams need the money.

and frankly in this day and age, if you want to smoke you do so fully knowing the health consequences then you probably should be allowed to (as long as there are no other humans around you) and the sport should be allowed to benefit from the proceeds of those choices.
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Old 29 Nov 2019, 21:24 (Ref:3943759)   #1804
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so basically a big deal will be made about it during the launch and winter testing but as soon as they get to Australia the Crown will file some sort law suit and there will be a modified/more subtle livery going forward.



big tobacco gets its publicity, the team gets much needed sponsorship money, and some fans will buy the 'cool' team kit before the kit is changed.



if im being honest i think this is as good compromise as we are ever going to get. cant pretend that cig companies dont have a long and important part to play in motor sports history and teams need the money.



and frankly in this day and age, if you want to smoke you do so fully knowing the health consequences then you probably should be allowed to (as long as there are no other humans around you) and the sport should be allowed to benefit from the proceeds of those choices.
How dare you bring logic and reasoning in to the argument. Don't you know kids are still stupid no matter how much we're told kids today are brilliant by their parents, and any advertising will convince kids to smoke, or vape. Except I remember as a kid doing usually the opposite of what I was told. But often the ban ads, product,etc people in the US are also the idiots that say road speed will decrease with decreased limits. The roads already average faster speeds than the limit, lowering the limit just means speeders are more over the limit, they won't slow. And tobacco won't go away, less common yes, away? Doubtful.
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Old 29 Nov 2019, 21:37 (Ref:3943764)   #1805
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According to the FT, BAT are to increase investment in e-cigarettes. This couldn't have come at a better time for McLaren.

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some extenuating circumstances (RB driver swap) but Sainz's finishing 6th on the drivers table is a massive accomplishment for the team. more so given the rash of bad results he had to begin the season with.
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There's still away to go but so far I'm impressed and pleased McLaren have been able to turn things round. Bringing in Andreas Seidl, as Team Principle has made a huge difference and they have great find in Lando Norris

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Old 2 Dec 2019, 22:30 (Ref:3944405)   #1808
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Typical of Fredís luck though. He leaves and suddenly they become good!
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Im really curious to see how BAT will get round the ban
Im sure between F1 and BAT they have some very clever lawyers and marketing people.
This will be interesting
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Maybe using vape or e cig sponsorship like some do
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