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Old 22 Dec 2017, 17:24 (Ref:3788729)   #166
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[QUOTE=Bcarr6;3788608]According to DSC the un-announced 2 car Ginetta programme never materialised


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Shocker......i suspect Ginettas LMP reputation is still mildly tainted from the LMP3 fiasco, so quite simply they need to get behind Manor and do the talking on the track, and prove its competitive, then other customers will knock for more.
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 18:07 (Ref:3789052)   #167
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Ginetta G60-LT-P1 update.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...ompletion.html


Ginetta G60-LT-P1 - Mecachrome V634P1 is quite a mouthful.
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 19:25 (Ref:3789062)   #168
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Ginetta G60-LT-P1 update.

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/1...ompletion.html


Ginetta G60-LT-P1 - Mecachrome V634P1 is quite a mouthful.


Weird how they sorted of started his whole P1 privateer hype and they will only have one car on the grid
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 20:19 (Ref:3789068)   #169
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Does anybody know ginetta's price tag?
maybe dallara-BR1 is cheaper
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 20:26 (Ref:3789070)   #170
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Pricing- £1.34 million ($1.67 million) for the rolling chassis and electronics, with the engine lease and full technical support an additional £594,000 ($744,282) per year sportscar365, dailysportscar
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 20:39 (Ref:3789071)   #171
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Quite expensive for sure, for a 2 cars effort will be required 5 mln $ + extra budget for spare parts just to have two cars.
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 20:57 (Ref:3789073)   #172
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It seems that you'd be pushing close to $2.5 million USD ballpark for one Ginetta with a Mechachome engine from those estimages (1 and two-thrids million USD for the car, three quarters of a million for a Mechachome engine deal).

Could the Ginetta use different engines? Maybe the Judd or Gibson engines might be cheaper.
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Old 24 Dec 2017, 22:15 (Ref:3789082)   #173
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It seems that you'd be pushing close to $2.5 million USD ballpark for one Ginetta with a Mechachome engine from those estimages (1 and two-thrids million USD for the car, three quarters of a million for a Mechachome engine deal).

Could the Ginetta use different engines? Maybe the Judd or Gibson engines might be cheaper.
Ginetta can use other engines
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 18:35 (Ref:3789130)   #174
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It seems that you'd be pushing close to $2.5 million USD ballpark for one Ginetta with a Mechachome engine from those estimages (1 and two-thrids million USD for the car, three quarters of a million for a Mechachome engine deal).

Could the Ginetta use different engines? Maybe the Judd or Gibson engines might be cheaper.
gibson lmp2 engine season leasing is a lot cheaper.
That's main problem of private lmp1.... to be 3-4 seconds faster (at best) than a lmp2, you must to spend x3.5
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Old 25 Dec 2017, 22:01 (Ref:3789140)   #175
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gibson lmp2 engine season leasing is a lot cheaper.
That's main problem of private lmp1.... to be 3-4 seconds faster (at best) than a lmp2, you must to spend x3.5
Honestly I do not see that as an issue.
If you are 3-4 seconds faster, equally reliable then spending 3.5 times as much as an LMP2 team is all worth it, if it means you are in for a shot at the win at Le Mans!

All that matters is that the gap between LMP1 and LMP2 is big enough to separate the classes, so that LMP1's will always have the first shot at victory. If you can can guarantee that, then you will get the sponsors and with that the budget.
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Is lmp2 costing that little in comparison? You buy the Ginetta and possibly an engine for around 3 million. Maybe 4.5-5 for 2. But you can win overall and develop your car. And hire who you want within reason. Seems like a bargain for a few well-off gentlemen team owners.
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Old 26 Dec 2017, 01:37 (Ref:3789146)   #177
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Can get a p2 for about 700k euro so it's quite a leap if the p1 is 3 mill but a genuine shot at le mans might be all it takes to attact the finances.

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Old 26 Dec 2017, 06:30 (Ref:3789159)   #178
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Weird how they sorted of started his whole P1 privateer hype and they will only have one car on the grid
There'll be more than one. I know of three other customers who were in late negotiations with Ginetta about buying cars.

There's the one which hasn't materialised, though most doubted whether they had enough money in the first place.
There's a Middle-East customer, who wanted two plus a spare tub, and who I believe has already signed a contract and paid a deposit, but doesn't want to announce it until next month (possibly at Autosport International?)
And there's a third, who I don't know much about.
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Old 26 Dec 2017, 07:52 (Ref:3789164)   #179
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There'll be more than one. I know of three other customers who were in late negotiations with Ginetta about buying cars.

There's the one which hasn't materialised, though most doubted whether they had enough money in the first place.
There's a Middle-East customer, who wanted two plus a spare tub, and who I believe has already signed a contract and paid a deposit, but doesn't want to announce it until next month (possibly at Autosport International?)
And there's a third, who I don't know much about.
Well, that paints a far rosier picture. Fingers crossed for those, and more! I like that Ginetta were proactive regarding P1, as they were with P3.
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Old 26 Dec 2017, 09:42 (Ref:3789171)   #180
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Problem is that new private lmp1 and engines are a huge question mark.... nobody still can predict the performance window and if the whole package is reliable.
2015-2016 R-one had overall better performances than oreca/ligier lmp2 but how many times did finish the race ahead?
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