Street Justice: Edwards' Style (merged) - Page 8

fieldodreams79 · 19 Jul 2010, 21:53 (Ref:2729343)

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Originally Posted by Matt

The bump n run aint wreckin.

That all depends on the bump; Earnhardt/Labonte, Bristol Fall of 99 ring a bell?

It's all chicken "poo poo" racing, if you ask me, but you didn't. Main reason I never liked Dale; too busy wrecking the guys I was pulling for to win. Dale, as well as Carl and Brad are too good of racers to have to do resort to that kind of racing, but NASCAR has allowed it and is now encouraging it.

Knowlesy · 19 Jul 2010, 22:21 (Ref:2729363)

I hate to be impolite, but Carl Edwards is fast becoming a dribbling retard.

fieldodreams79 · 19 Jul 2010, 23:03 (Ref:2729394)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

I hate to be impolite, but Carl Edwards is fast becoming a dribbling retard.

but he seems to be the only driver taking the chief dribbling retard's executive order to heart.

this weekend and under those orders, he has the win and Brad does not.

Try Hard · 20 Jul 2010, 08:25 (Ref:2729498)

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Originally Posted by Knowlesy

I hate to be impolite, but Carl Edwards is fast becoming a dribbling retard.

agreed....

Sorry, but bump and runs are part of Nascar, I would have thought Carl's been around long enough now to know that (and no-doubt the shoe has been on the other foot countless times)
Intentionally wrecking someone (twice so far this season no doubt) is a big no-no as far I'm concerned.
Someone really needs to take Edwards aside and give him a proper "chat", this can't carry on surely... either that, or a car ends up in the stands with some dead fans on his hands... maybe then he might gain some perspective, cause at the moment he sounds like a spoiled brat

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Originally Posted by CE on Autosport.com

That's my job, to win that race and to make sure that I don't get walked on or get something taken away from me that's mine.

Axeman444 · 20 Jul 2010, 10:02 (Ref:2729530)

you don't see anyone else trying to do the bump and run on Edwards now though do you? Surely if you need to move someone to get past them, you must expect something in return?

AndyS · 20 Jul 2010, 11:42 (Ref:2729559)

I don't like to be controversial on here, but what a pratt! Edwards that is not the previous poster! Who does he think he is, carrying on like he's some kind of hard man. As has previously been said he's going to do some serious harm to somebody at this rate. What I find more staggering are his comments after the race.

I find this continuing episode a little annoying as I've only in the last couple of years started paying attention to Nascar and this is taking away from what is ultimately a great series. I know he was nudged and felt aggrieved but come on this is starting to get silly and dangerous now. Come on Nascar you need to get a hold of this situation and quickly.

ensign14 · 20 Jul 2010, 12:06 (Ref:2729562)

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Originally Posted by Axeman444

you don't see anyone else trying to do the bump and run on Edwards now though do you? Surely if you need to move someone to get past them, you must expect something in return?

No, it just means that next time someone might think that they had to eliminate Edwards entirely.

fieldodreams79 · 20 Jul 2010, 13:12 (Ref:2729596)

The increased safety measures installed in the cars and at the tracks over the last decade have given the idiots in charge and the drivers a complacency about severity of accidents.

Gateway is a not quickest tracks, but it does have the long straights and flat, "slow" corners. Earlier in the event, one of the Gibbs' cars got hit in the driver side door at a "relatively low speed" in the corner and was a bit woozy when he exited the car. If Brad had gotten it in the driver's door at the straightaway speeds, both NASCAR and Carl would not be happy with themselves, in the least bit.

But, everyone walked away, NASCAR was all over the news and being discussed quite a bit for a Cup series off weekend; judging from the track record, NASCAR will slap the wrist of the driver that had brought them more publicity and wait for the next round.

fieldodreams79 · 21 Jul 2010, 11:48 (Ref:2730081)

Carl's wrist should be slapped sometime today......

JHamilton · 21 Jul 2010, 18:48 (Ref:2730282)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

While I agree, are you saying if he wrecked folks in a more subtle manner, it would be OK?

I guess I am... He's trying to kill Brad. Seriously.

Earnhardt had a way of helping someone into a wall and making them feel good about it.

fieldodreams79 · 21 Jul 2010, 20:38 (Ref:2730335)

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/head...ies/index.html

Probation for both Brad K and Carl E for the remainder of the calender year.

Carl fined $25K and loses 60 points.

fieldodreams79 · 21 Jul 2010, 20:40 (Ref:2730336)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Earnhardt had a way of helping someone into a wall and making them feel good about it.

The NASCAR hierarchy were also in love with Dale.

Aloysius · 21 Jul 2010, 23:36 (Ref:2730392)

Well, at least Edwards win was not taken away. I sorry, but I am so sick of namby pambies and safety Nazis trying to pretend racing is a safe sport. Every one loves hard racing, but they become cry babies after a little contact. Suck it up. Edwards's move on Keselowski was perfectly fair in a last lap, racing for the win situation. Now, I do agree Edwards has a history with Brad, and I agree that the Atlanta incident earlier was wrong, and probably deserved a harsher penalty then he got. But this time there was no need for penalty. Brad made a fair move, Carl made one back. No action need. But now everyone is crying because someone could be hurt. It's racing, someone could always be hurt, that how it works. I'm just sick of all this.

JHamilton · 22 Jul 2010, 03:12 (Ref:2730438)

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Originally Posted by Aloysius

Well, at least Edwards win was not taken away. I sorry, but I am so sick of namby pambies and safety Nazis trying to pretend racing is a safe sport. Every one loves hard racing, but they become cry babies after a little contact. Suck it up. Edwards's move on Keselowski was perfectly fair in a last lap, racing for the win situation. Now, I do agree Edwards has a history with Brad, and I agree that the Atlanta incident earlier was wrong, and probably deserved a harsher penalty then he got. But this time there was no need for penalty. Brad made a fair move, Carl made one back. No action need. But now everyone is crying because someone could be hurt. It's racing, someone could always be hurt, that how it works. I'm just sick of all this.

Racing is dangerous enough on its own without people intentionally wrecking each other. It's mindless and stupid. Nascar brought this on themselves in an attempt to regain their fan base. I've got news for them... It's not working and someone will get hurt either not involved in the scuffle or the crowd. Watch the video again, it's a replay of Atlanta.

JHamilton · 22 Jul 2010, 03:14 (Ref:2730440)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

The NASCAR hierarchy were also in love with Dale.

Yeah, but they're in love with whatever is good for the back pocket. Dale wrecked plenty of drivers by bumping and banging, but he never wrecked anyone like Edwards. Times have changed since Dale's prime anyway.

Cynic · 22 Jul 2010, 14:14 (Ref:2730648)

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Originally Posted by fieldodreams79

http://www.nascar.com/2010/news/head...ies/index.html

Probation for both Brad K and Carl E for the remainder of the calender year.

Carl fined $25K and loses 60 points.

Interesting to see that the probation applies to both NWS and Sprint. Who wants to put money on Edwards not completing the season? I simply can't see him staying out of trouble for the next three months.

JHamilton · 22 Jul 2010, 15:14 (Ref:2730667)

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Originally Posted by Cynic

Interesting to see that the probation applies to both NWS and Sprint. Who wants to put money on Edwards not completing the season? I simply can't see him staying out of trouble for the next three months.

He'll finish the season. They'll just fine him again; probation means nothing.

fieldodreams79 · 22 Jul 2010, 22:58 (Ref:2730906)

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Originally Posted by JHamilton

Yeah, but they're in love with whatever is good for the back pocket. Dale wrecked plenty of drivers by bumping and banging, but he never wrecked anyone like Edwards. Times have changed since Dale's prime anyway.

I agree, totally, but what bothers me is what has always bothered me about NASCAR is that there is no clear line; I understand that clarity can be difficult in racing, however. But it's all NASCAR discretion, and I rarely like their "judgement" calls. Like you said of Dale, he ALWAYS got the benefit of the doubt because he was good for the sport and knew how to cuddle up with the authority when he needed to, but he knew how to speak his mind to the authority when he needed to.

What's good for NASCAR hasn't always been well received and it's hard to tell if all this nonsense is good or not.

BTW, there were plenty of drivers that never had to resort to the bump and run to win races, and the one's that I am thinking won plenty of races, and championships.

MJ_N_09 · 23 Jul 2010, 00:56 (Ref:2730926)

How Edwards is not more hated than Ky. Busch is beyond me at this point.

Neil22 · 23 Jul 2010, 04:48 (Ref:2730982)

Frankly, I think all this hoopla is manufactured by NASCAR. They want the fans back as cheap as possible. Of course this will only work as long as you don't kill any drivers. NASCAR will continue to lose fans as long as all the drivers are driving the same car. Ask IZOD.

Matt · 23 Jul 2010, 05:17 (Ref:2730985)

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Originally Posted by Neil22

NASCAR will continue to lose fans as long as all the drivers are driving the same car. Ask IZOD.

They've all been driving the same basic car since 1983.

Splatz the Cow · 30 Jul 2010, 11:32 (Ref:2735735)

Just watched that clip of the incident - thanks for posting it - and was surprised at how had Brad got into Carl.

Brad had pretty much lost the position to Carl at the corner entry, and knocks Carl fairly hard. Carl gets knocked up off line and nearly into the grey, and could have lost it there.

Brad's move was much more than just a nudge as a driver does when coming up the inside, he punted Carl's left rear quarter hard.

Paul Tracy and Michael Andretti were like this a decade ago in open wheelers.

Carl had a chance to nudge/push Brad earlier but didn't, and so it seems like a reactionary, him or me scenario, that Brad actually started in this instance.

The problem is, and I agree with an earlier comment, Carl is bad at bumping people, and he overreacted here, punted Brad too much, and wrecked a whole lot of other cars too.

That's the same as if he individual wrecked each and every one of them.

Honestly, if you had a multi-car team, and a low ranked driver, just wreck both Carl and Brad for the rest of the season - they'd soon learn.

Or Nascar would.

**gomick** · 1 Aug 2010, 01:38 (Ref:2736849)

Dont think Carl will ever get over Talladega 09 & Brad will continue to pay, he just needs to wreck Carl anytime an opportunity arises....
Dont think it will happen at Iowa though, Kyle is dominating...

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