Centurion Boats at the Glen - NEXTEL Cup

broadrun96 · 10 Aug 2007, 15:43 (Ref:1985588)

Anybody with more knowledge in NASCAR setup know anything about rain condition running in either Cup or Busch? Have heard rain could impact qualifying for both series.

**FIRE** · 10 Aug 2007, 17:56 (Ref:1985672)

No Marc Goossens/Riley-D'Hondt Motorsports at the Glen?

**FIRE** · 10 Aug 2007, 18:03 (Ref:1985677)

1st practice

**Craig** · 10 Aug 2007, 20:09 (Ref:1985751)

I notice a certain Marcos Ambrose is driving a certain Robby Gordon Motorsports car... Good stuff!

Linky

broadrun96 · 10 Aug 2007, 20:38 (Ref:1985770)

Who of the road racers now has the points to make the field since it looks like a rain out of qualifying?

**FIRE** · 10 Aug 2007, 20:59 (Ref:1985790)

Qualifying rained out.

Race lineup

No Cup race for Ambrose.

I don't understand NASCAR. It's Friday afternoon and race is on Sunday, why not qualify on Saturday (or even Sunday morning) if regular qualifying rains out?

chemhead1 · 10 Aug 2007, 22:46 (Ref:1985837)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

I don't understand NASCAR. It's Friday afternoon and race is on Sunday, why not qualify on Saturday (or even Sunday morning) if regular qualifying rains out?

Theres a Busch race and a Grand American race as well, both of these 200-milers. Even so, NASCAR should move practices around and whatnot, or if not possible, just revert to Practice 1 times! It's not that hard, NASCAR. JUST USE YOUR PRACTICE TIMES, LIKE EVERYONE ELSE.

Knowlesy · 10 Aug 2007, 23:17 (Ref:1985850)

Yeah, never understood why they line up championship order.

Although this is tinged with driver bias.

**gomick** · 10 Aug 2007, 23:53 (Ref:1985859)

spewing for marcos

- noticed he was as quick as aj allmendinger who has come from a road race background & been driving nascar all season. though they are driving the car of tomorrow i think

Hazza · 11 Aug 2007, 01:24 (Ref:1985879)

Did Patreek make it in?

edit: Sweet! There is someone to root for!

deeks6 · 11 Aug 2007, 04:29 (Ref:1985900)

No Boris, no Marcos - 2 of the better road racers no start - what a ridiculous rule not to just use practice times or reschedule.

Venom XR · 11 Aug 2007, 04:44 (Ref:1985904)

Or just qualify in the wet - what are they, nancys?

StuiE · 11 Aug 2007, 05:23 (Ref:1985911)

It sucks

chemhead1 · 11 Aug 2007, 05:35 (Ref:1985920)

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Originally Posted by Venom XR

Or just qualify in the wet - what are they, nancys?

With Brian France running things, it sure seems like it...

Venom XR · 11 Aug 2007, 05:53 (Ref:1985931)

It's a shame really, you'd think the spectacle of NASCAR on a road course plus wet weather racing would be too much of a good thing NOT to pass up.

But as others have said, use practise times. I guess there is some history and/or politics to the sport some of us getting into it more deeply now don't quite understand

J-C · 11 Aug 2007, 10:47 (Ref:1985985)

Wet qualifying would not really be an option as track conditions would change so much during the course of the 2hrs or so the process takes. Remember all those skewed grids when rain affected F1 qualifying in the single-lap format? Agree with those suggesting using practice times as being a fairer process - especially in the case of a road course where specialists aren't certain to qualify.

Disappointed both for Ambrose, who was comfortably inside the top 43 and not far off teammate R. Gordon in his first drive in the CoT, and the championship-points grid doesn't help JPM much either - P18 is alright on paper (compared to P32 at Sonoma!), but with all the quick guys ahead of him at the sharp end it probably is just as big a challenge as Sonoma was.

lookleft · 11 Aug 2007, 14:06 (Ref:1986052)

JPM will be able to use one of the 6 FCY for debris to get to the front - after all it's a fuel mileage race

Knowlesy · 11 Aug 2007, 15:38 (Ref:1986091)

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Originally Posted by J-C

Wet qualifying would not really be an option as track conditions would change so much during the course of the 2hrs or so the process takes. Remember all those skewed grids when rain affected F1 qualifying in the single-lap format? Agree with those suggesting using practice times as being a fairer process - especially in the case of a road course where specialists aren't certain to qualify.

Totally agree with all of that.

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Originally Posted by J-C

The championship-points grid doesn't help JPM much either - P18 is alright on paper (compared to P32 at Sonoma!), but with all the quick guys ahead of him at the sharp end it probably is just as big a challenge as Sonoma was.

It is a disaster.

J-C · 11 Aug 2007, 16:00 (Ref:1986100)

Practice 2 times:- http://www.nascar.com/races/cup/2007...e2_speeds.html

StuiE · 11 Aug 2007, 16:47 (Ref:1986121)

Saw an interveiw with Boris Said on Nascar.com just then, he's not happy as you would understand, he wants qualifying on Saturday.

They could even drop the Sat practice session if need be, the cars are adjusted so much during the race that the practice is really only to sort out shock/spring rates and generally 'practice'.

**FIRE** · 11 Aug 2007, 17:15 (Ref:1986148)

Said replaces Elliot at Wood Bros:
http://www.nascar.com/2007/news/head...len/index.html

Knowlesy · 11 Aug 2007, 17:24 (Ref:1986154)

Great news.

StuiE · 11 Aug 2007, 17:31 (Ref:1986160)

Just read that, hell yeh!

StuiE · 11 Aug 2007, 17:33 (Ref:1986161)

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Originally Posted by FIRE

No Marc Goossens/Riley-D'Hondt Motorsports at the Glen?

Have been reading Jayski, he practiced the #38, but won't be racing, Riley D'Hondt couldn't find the backing.

TWRv12 · 11 Aug 2007, 17:38 (Ref:1986163)

Justs shows how much NASSSSSSSSSSCAR Quali' sucks, when they can't even deal with rain on a road course. The whole thing about it having to take two hours is bull. F1 and V8SC have the right idea. It works a the fans love it.

God show from Marcus, close to Robby, first time in the car, first time at the track. Boris is right about everything he said in the interview.

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