FIA App K regulations - 01-01-2012 - Page 2

simon drabble · 7 Jan 2011, 11:13 (Ref:2812403)

Jeremy your talent is wasted on this humble board...

**Mike Bell** · 7 Jan 2011, 12:44 (Ref:2812453)

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Originally Posted by simon drabble

Jeremy your talent is wasted on this humble board...

No it isn't.

Thank you Jeremy for the insight. Confirmation that the two 'Monza' caps I have fitted and which have the secondary cap underneath should be acceptable!

terence · 7 Jan 2011, 14:37 (Ref:2812516)

So,those of us who have a tried and tested Exposed Monza cap [Spa 2009- didn't leak a drop of the 100ltr's of Belgiums 'Finest'] Now have to work out something that wont leak,doesn't negate the idea of having a quick fill filler. Why oh why cant these prats leave well alone??? Next thing we'll hear is that there are anti leak inserts available----------- from a factory owned by a director of the FIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111

SAMD · 7 Jan 2011, 15:07 (Ref:2812536)

funny you should say that.............

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Jan 2011, 16:45 (Ref:2812574)

I doubt that it's much of a problem Terry, but none-the-less it's still a pain in the butt.

that said I think there's room to plug an n/r valve on to here before fitting the Monza Cap.

terence · 7 Jan 2011, 16:55 (Ref:2812577)

Easyier if you dont have a 3 inch filler neck though.

Why do you want to fit a Monza Cap on a small neck-all you need do is fit a screw type cap. Dont forget to get a Rollover valve fitted to your breather,thats a certain 'Fail' at Spa.

**Peter Mallett** · 7 Jan 2011, 17:01 (Ref:2812581)

Already got one. Standard on all my cars.

zefarelly · 7 Jan 2011, 20:11 (Ref:2812695)

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Originally Posted by Peter Mallett

Already got one. Standard on all my cars.

I have a 'do not invert' sticker in my car

esper · 9 Jan 2011, 22:56 (Ref:2813460)

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Originally Posted by Mike Bell

But a lot of 'period' seats don't have aperture in base for them and with glassfibre car need to have somewhere on floor to locate them, so looks like a way of getting owners to spend lots of money.....

brazing a plate or bar between 2 chassistubes in a glassfibre car wont coast that much........unless you have a Lotus.

**Mike Bell** · 10 Jan 2011, 05:45 (Ref:2813536)

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Originally Posted by esper

brazing a plate or bar between 2 chassistubes in a glassfibre car wont coast that much........unless you have a Lotus.

Luckily Esper I don't have a Lotus and luckily have found on looking underneath that there is already a cross tube near enough to be used for mounts! Just need to work out if seat can be modded or if will have to be replaced.

Enrico Spaggiari · 11 Jan 2011, 09:17 (Ref:2814087)

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Originally Posted by FISCracer

8.3.2.1.3 Roof reinforcement :
Compulsory for cars CT and GTS over 2000 cc
The upper part of the safety cage must comply with one of Drawings K-19, K-20 or K21.
The reinforcements may follow the curve of the roof.
For competitions without co-drivers, in the case of Drawing K-19 only, only one diagonal member may be fitted but its front connection must be on the driver’s side.
The ends of the reinforcements must be less than 100 mm from the junction between rollbars and members (not applicable to the top of the V formed by reinforcements in Drawings K-20 and K-21).

Hi everyone.
First of all, thanks for posting the link with new regs.
I have a question about the new rollbar rules. My car (Ford Mustang 1965) is fitted with a rollbar which has 1 diagonal member (drawing K-12), 1 doorbar on each side (drawing K-15) and no roof reinforcement (just main roof members). I had never have problems so far during scrutineering (both in Italy and Europe), so I am wondering if the new modifications (red text) of article 8.3.2 onwards (diagonal member for Ct and GT over 2.000cc- roof reinforcement- doorbars) apply to all periods of cars or from period F or....
Thank you fro your reply.
Kind regards.

Enrico

**Mike Bell** · 11 Jan 2011, 12:47 (Ref:2814174)

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Originally Posted by Enrico Spaggiari

Hi everyone. I am wondering if the new modifications (red text) of article 8.3.2 onwards (diagonal member for Ct and GT over 2.000cc- roof reinforcement- doorbars) apply to all periods of cars or from period F or....
Kind regards.

Enrico

Enrico, my take on this- as someone with no authority at all on the subject, but have tried to interpret the regs

- is that it is over 2 litre CT and GTS cars of all periods.

Which means from Jan 1947 (Start of 'E') through to whenever CT & GTS finish- could be mid 80s or later- get confused trying to work that bit out!

Maybe I am wrong regarding period 'E' cars but looks like that from Jan 1962 'F' onwards like your Mustang are included. But this is only my interpretation- hopefully some clarification will come from race organisers and scrutineers before our seasons start!

Makes me glad only have under 2 litre car- but perhaps FIA saving that for next year!

Enrico Spaggiari · 11 Jan 2011, 16:27 (Ref:2814283)

Thanks Mike.
Unfortunately,when new rules come out it's always a matter of interpretation... Anyway I have had the same feeling as you... over 2.000cc cars for all periods :-(
More kilos in the car, more euros out of the pocket... That's motor racing, isn't it?