The broad sunlit uplands of next March. Yeah, really. .

[Tim Falce]

For those of you that drive trucks abroad and stick to the rules it seems you may need to change your driver cpc cards for Johnny Foreigner ones in the event of a no deal brexit (it wont happen mind)
We will accept European drivers cards but they wont be accepting ours
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/prepare-...ehicle-drivers

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by Mike Bell

So, catching up- The Lords have passed 'No deal' bill, but apparently that still doesn't rule it out? So where do we go from here…..

I think we have to rely on Boris lying dead in a ditch somewhere so he can't go to Brussels to ask for an extension

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

I think we have to rely on Boris lying dead in a ditch somewhere so he can't go to Brussels to ask for an extension

He's taking an interesting approach to life at the moment.

First alienate the rest of your family having recently moved on from one's wife and then alienate the majority of your colleagues.

Then, having signalled your approach to the world, alienate your electorate.

The place in history that he so much desires seems to be but a step or two away. The shortest tenure of the Prime Minister role ever? Guinness of records should find it easy to validate and confirm that one.

Oh well. He surely knew he was grabbing at the poisoned chalice during his campaign to become leader. As did the others, none of whom seemed to be putting up much of a fight in reality. Perhaps because they wanted only to be part of the game but not win?

Or maybe because they are all lacking the wide levels of competence required for the role.

His choice of chief advisor does not seem to be helping in any way either.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by Lancsbreaker

Sounds like a shrewd negotiating strategy, guaranteed to get good results.....

Can you imagine Corbyn's dream team?

We could start with Thornberry in whatever role she was referring to in her Brexit comments and have Abbot as Chancellor for her numeracy and then work on down through the other roles.

But who would be in charge of Tractor production?

[E.B]

Originally Posted by grantp

Can you imagine Corbyn's dream team?

But who would be in charge of Tractor production?

Ford Jnr ?(Fords son....)

[midgetman]

Originally Posted by E.B

Ford Jnr ?(Fords son....)

"wince* nice one.

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[midgetman]

Originally Posted by bauble

Are you going to regale us with the joke about the lorry driver, and the young lady he picked up?

No I don't know it. Feel free...

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[MGDavid]

Originally Posted by grantp

Can you imagine Corbyn's dream team?

We could start with Thornberry in whatever role she was referring to in her Brexit comments and have Abbot as Chancellor for her numeracy and then work on down through the other roles.

But who would be in charge of Tractor production?

Oh come on, everyone knows that you don't need tractors when you give all the unemployed a spade each.... (they think that's what win-win means....)

[grantp]

Originally Posted by MGDavid

Oh come on, everyone knows that you don't need tractors when you give all the unemployed a spade each.... (they think that's what win-win means....)

A spade? Surely that would be a return to a form of slavery?

[Mike Bell]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

For those of you that drive trucks abroad and stick to the rules it seems you may need to change your driver cpc cards for Johnny Foreigner ones in the event of a no deal brexit (it wont happen mind)

Years ago delta and others in a similar 'one man' position checked if they required CPCs and were advised that they were exempt, so hopefully that won't be another hurdle! But as you say, we've got to leave first.....

[Mike Harte]

I would have thought that they would be exempt under the following exemptions; vehicle:

• is used for non-commercial carriage of passengers and/or goods or for personal use
• is carrying material or equipment to be used by the driver in the course of his or her work, provided that driving the vehicle is not the driver's principal activity

[Mike Bell]

That’s it. Exempt.....

[S griffin]

I can't remember a time in my lifetime when UK politics has been in this much of a mess. Seems we have forgotten there are many other issues out there, not just Brexit.

[grantp]

Originally Posted by S griffin

I can't remember a time in my lifetime when UK politics has been in this much of a mess. Seems we have forgotten there are many other issues out there, not just Brexit.

I suppose there are few issues that are quite so imminent and even fewer over which UK politicians (and thus, to some extent, the people currently living in the UK) have any meaningful influence of some sort, somehow. Even then I use the word "influence" reluctantly.

I suspect that politics, around the world, has been in a mess for a long time but it takes something very specific, with deadlines set and apparently immovable, to spotlight the full measure of the problems within the political arena and publicise them in the public domain.

[bauble]

Originally Posted by grantp

I suppose there are few issues that are quite so imminent and even fewer over which UK politicians (and thus, to some extent, the people currently living in the UK) have any meaningful influence of some sort, somehow. Even then I use the word "influence" reluctantly.

I suspect that politics, around the world, has been in a mess for a long time but it takes something very specific, with deadlines set and apparently immovable, to spotlight the full measure of the problems within the political arena and publicise them in the public domain.

A word that pops in to my mind concerning the behaviour of most of the people working against Boris (therefore Brexit) is spiteful.

Amber Rudd and other ex-Tories in particular seem to be aiming their spleen at the PM in a personal sense rather than a political sense. The politics of the school play ground.

Contempt becomes disgust, and will no doubt end up as hate in peoples minds.

This country deserves Corbyn and the sooner they get him the better, then they will learn what bad government is. My only consolation will be in saying 'serves you right'.

[Tim Falce]

Originally Posted by bauble

This country deserves Corbyn and the sooner they get him the better, then they will learn what bad government is. My only consolation will be in saying 'serves you right'.

Cheers for that, the problem with Corbyn is he want s to tax the rich but like all others before him they end up overtaxing the middle Englanders who earn just enough to keep their heads above water but not enough to be classed as wealthy or have too much spare cash. So we're the easy targets, the wealthy get away with it and we end up paying for those that don't want to do anything and rely on the rest of us bailing them out while disabled and elderly who should be looked after still get left behind and generally ignored.

[S griffin]

Parliament has been opposed, but can’t ever remember them being in a civil war like this. The problem is, sometimes it’s hard tell which side some people are on

[grantp]

Originally Posted by bauble

A word that pops in to my mind concerning the behaviour of most of the people working against Boris (therefore Brexit) is spiteful.

Amber Rudd and other ex-Tories in particular seem to be aiming their spleen at the PM in a personal sense rather than a political sense. The politics of the school play ground.

Contempt becomes disgust, and will no doubt end up as hate in peoples minds.

This country deserves Corbyn and the sooner they get him the better, then they will learn what bad government is. My only consolation will be in saying 'serves you right'.

I suspect the masses of the playground are simply responding in kind to someone who has, much to their discredit and annoyance, assumed the throne and so feels he can abuse the position gained. He seems to have some very poor judgement about who to retain or appoint to assist him.

At the rate the political transfer market is operating the country may get Swinson.

Has anyone get a clue about what that might mean? (Beyond submission to Europe and Green everything?)

[bauble]

Personally I think Boris is right to kick out those 'Remainder Tories' they have wrecked all attempts to find a 'deal', and have shown their true colours by joining the 'Rebel Alliance' co-operating with their most deadly enemies, Corbyn, and Swinson.

Many thing the PM is rudderless - well he is now.

With only Leave candidates at the next election and an agreement with Brexit a winning coalition could be formed.

[Aysedasi]

Originally Posted by Tim Falce

Cheers for that, the problem with Corbyn is he want s to tax the rich but like all others before him they end up overtaxing the middle Englanders who earn just enough to keep their heads above water but not enough to be classed as wealthy or have too much spare cash. So we're the easy targets, the wealthy get away with it and we end up paying for those that don't want to do anything and rely on the rest of us bailing them out while disabled and elderly who should be looked after still get left behind and generally ignored.

Exactly this. Been saying it for years.

[Mike Bell]

So another week of ‘will he, won’t he’, ‘will we, won’t we’, ‘will they, won’t they’...... One thing is certain, the outcome won’t be pretty.

[Mike Harte]

I think that BoJo has actually overplayed his hand, and has now boxed himself into a corner. That is, unless, he has some cunning stunt up his sleeve in order to circumvent the law - assuming that he isn't going to abduct Lizzie Deux to stop her giving the Royal Assent to the "No Deal" bill later this afternoon.

I think that his only saviour might be if one of the EU counties' leaders decides to veto a request to extend the date of leaving. But that would really be a case of the EU leader/s cutting off his/her/their nose/s to spite his/her/their face/s!

[Tel 911S]

Originally Posted by Mike Harte

I think that BoJo has actually overplayed his hand, and has now boxed himself into a corner. That is, unless, he has some cunning stunt up his sleeve in order to circumvent the law - assuming that he isn't going to abduct Lizzie Deux to stop her giving the Royal Assent to the "No Deal" bill later this afternoon.

I think that his only saviour might be if one of the EU counties' leaders decides to veto a request to extend the date of leaving. But that would really be a case of the EU leader/s cutting off his/her/their nose/s to spite his/her/their face/s!

Bearing in mind that just about everything you will read in the MSM is a load of rubbish , there is more to it than Boris overplaying his hand .

Why did they withdraw over 100 filibuster amendments to the HOL bill to let it go through , unless they were fairly certain that it would not make it impossible to leave by the 31st Oct .
Someone who I know who has a better understanding of the law than me said that they could just declare that we have left the EU at the end of September & that would be perfectly legal .
Or Boris could go to the EU & ask for a 1 day extension from 31st Oct , then leave on 2nd Nov & that would all be legal .

So , unless Boris is just being another Traitor May , I think that democracy will win & we will leave the EUSSR soon .

[Mike Bell]

Parliament is prorogued, but not prorogued, or it could go either way after a judgement has been made by the high court? Have I got that, or is there more.....

[Peter Mallett]

It's the Scottish High Court. Not entirely certain where it's jurisdiction sits with England and Wales. Also don't forget it is covered by a separate parliament.

So, it goes to the Supreme Court now because as you say, the High Court found it to be legal. What a waste of time and money.