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Alfa Romeo 1750/2000 GTAm chassisnumbers
Hello members,
On the Alfa Romeo Bulletin Board, we are researching the chassisnumbers of the Alfa Romeo 1750/2000 GTAm. Here is the status as of the 12th of January 2011. If you have any information to add or have any comments, please feel free to do so. Definition: But first an addition to definition of what a GTAm is. As already said the GTAm was an Alfa Romeo 1750 GTV that was converted by Autodelta to GTAm specification. The homologation papers specify what changes could be made. Along with the type 1750 GTV USA (105.51) some type 1750 GTV EU (105.44) have also been converted. The same goes for some type 2000 GTV’s. Besides that, UlrichGTA told me that in Germany some GT 1300 Junior cars have been converted to GTAm because the GT 1300 Junior was lighter. Difficulty with the GTAm is, that it never had a unique type- and chassisnumber. This is unlike the type GTA (105.32 LHD and 105.34 RHD) and type GTA 1300 Junior (105.59). Variants: Then there are variants within the different types: - new cars from the production line converted to GTAm spec's by Autodelta as Autodelta works cars - new cars from the production line converted to GTAm spec's by Autodelta as Autodelta customer cars - existing cars converted to GTAm spec's by Autodelta as Autodelta customer cars - new or existing cars converted to GTAm spec's by other tuners/teams with Autodelta parts like the Balduzzi cars (Tony Adriaensens mentions this in his book) - new or existing bodyshells with or without a chassisnumber that were equipped with Autodelta parts (for example from wrecked cars) - other variants on this theme in various stages of tune A lot of GTAm's will have been updated during and after their racing life, engines and gearboxes were swapped, they have been restored, etc ..... And some of these cars had great palmares while others were less fortunate. Copies: Besides that, there are a lot of copies with various stages of tune with less or more original GTAm parts. Have a look around on alfabb and you will see a lot of GTV's being changed into GTAm copies. Some of them are very nice and well built. Chassisnumbers: Here is a list with with chassisnumbers and the sources of the information we have collected sofar. 1. 1530671 Autodelta 01-09-1969 (source: Tabucchi) 2. 1530776 Autodelta 29-10-1969 (source: Tabucchi) 3. 1530782 Autodelta Jolly Club 31-12-1969 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car (source: Adriaensens) Takis confirms car now in the Alfa Romeo Museo Storico collection, see post #34) 4. 1530849 Autodelta 27-01-1970 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car 25-01-1970 (source: Adriaensens) 5. 1530879 Autodelta 08-01-1970 (source: Tabucchi) 6. 1530896 Autodelta 28-01-1970 (source: Tabucchi) 7. 1530938 Autodelta 26-01-1970 with licenseplate MI K91850 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car No date (source: Adriaensens) Could be ex-Chiapparini and ex-Rosso Bianco collection, is now in private collection and for sale as of december 2010 8. 1530952 Autodelta 26-01-1970 with licenseplate MI L27247 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car No date (source: Adriaensens) 9. 1531034 Autodelta 11-02-1970 with licenseplate MI L26447 (source: Tabucchi) 10. 1531039 Autodelta 11-02-1970 (source: Tabucchi) Ex SOFAR France driven by Chasseuil (source: Adriaensens) 11. 1531042 Autodelta 16-02-1970 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car No date (source: Adriaensens) 12. 1531231 Luigi Cecchini 26-05-1970 (source: Tabucchi, Takis confirms car is now in Greece, see post #35) Autodelta works engine* No date (source: Adriaensens) 13. 1532265 Autodelta 23-01-1971 (source: Tabucchi) 14. 1532307 Autodelta 23-01-1971 (source: Tabucchi) 15. 1532327 Autodelta 23-01-1971 (source: Tabucchi) 16. 1533142 Autodelta 28-01-1972 (source: Tabucchi) Autodelta works car No date (source: Adriaensens) 17. 1358476 Elaborazione Autodelta, Autodelta works engine (source: Tabucchi) 18. 1378479 Monzeglio Squadra Corse(source: Tabucchi, Martinue confirms this car as genuine in post #40) 19. 1532345 (source: Tabucchi in post #112: Don Best and others in the thread concerning 'GTAm prices' mentioning the 'Angola' GTAm's) 20. 1532346 (source: Tabucchi in post #112: Don Best and others in the thread concerning 'GTAm prices' mentioning the 'Angola' GTAm's) 21. 1382607 (source: Fred della Noce noted that he used to own a Brasilian ex Jolly Club Hotel GTAm now owned by Alcidis Diniz in Brasil. Look in this thread: http://www.alfabb.com/bb/forums/giul...13599-a-3.html. 22. 1530834 Autodelta works car No date (source: Adriaensens) Imported by Alfa Romeo Benelux 23. 1530840 Raced by Alfa Romeo Benelux/Grafo Racing Team No date (source: Adriaensens) 24. 1530841 Raced by Hahn No date (source: Adriaensens) 25. 1530848 Previously owned and raced by Toine Hezemans No date (source: Adriaensens) 26. 1531210 Raced by Alfa Romeo Benelux No date (source: Adriaensens) 27. 1531230 Autodelta works car 30-05-1970 (source: Adriaensens) 28. 1532166 Autodelta prepared for Scuderia Brescia Corse No date (source: Adriaensens) -. 1538476, not possible because chassisnumber is too high (?!): 1538476 should probably read 1358476 (source: Adriaensens) 29. 1530037 Prepared in 1974, Balduzzi camcover (source: Eiso Bergsma, he claims that the original Autodelta invoices are with the car) ?. 1357840 (Italian Monzeglio 105.44 GTAm, questionmark?) 30. 1357933 (source: Martinue) -. 1530038 (source: Don Best) (typo for 1530938 according to Martinue's 'bad scan', Don Best confirmed it is a typo because he was working from the 'bad' scan) ?. 1530145 (source: Don Best) (typo for 1532345?, according to Martinue) (Don Best will investigate) ?. 1530246 (source: Don Best) (typo for 1532346?, according to Martinue) (Don Best will investigate) -. 1530787 (source: Don Best) (typo for 1530782 according to Martinue's 'bad scan', Don Best confirmed it is a typo because he was working from the 'bad' scan) -. 1532165 (source: Don Best) (typo for 1532166 according to Martinue's 'bad scan'), Don Best confirmed it is a typo because he was working from the 'bad' scan) 31. 1530974 (source: Bjorn Schmidt) 32. 1531068 (source: Vince Sharp) ?. 1534912 (source: Ecarrillo, not possible because chassisnumber is too high (?!) Should this read 1354912 and was it a typo? Why was chassis 1534912 mentioned in the auction data? What about the RHD?) ?. 1530537 (source: RossoGTVforme, Autodelta prepared (works car?) No date (Sent to US), seen in Monterey) So up to now, the sources speak of: xx. more than 30 GTAm's that could be genuine ?. a couple of chassisnumbers that pose questionmarks -. some chassisnumbers that could be or proved to be typo's accoording to Martinue's 'good and bad scan'. Licenseplates: The following period licenseplates were found up to now: Italy MI K91850 GTAm #?? Giro d'Italia 1973 Venturi - Civolani and #35 Silverstone 1973 Facetti (chassisnumber #1530938) Italy MI K92422 GTAm #23 Brno 1971 Hezemans, # 40 Spa 1971 Italy MI K9?291 GTAm #24 Brno 1971 Facetti Italy MI L27247 GTAm #42 Spa 1971 Hezemans, #50 Spa 1973 Larini - Facetti (chassisnumber #1530952) Italy MI L12787 GTAm #51 Spa 1973 Dini - Dona and #23 Zandvoort Dini - Dona Italy MI L31853 GTAm #41 Spa 1971 (chassisnumber #1531042) Italy MI L76850 GTAm #22 Zandvoort 1973 Deen - Zeccoli Italy MI L47393 GTAm #46 Critérium des Cévennes 1970 Barailler-Fayel (4th) and #37 Silverstone 1973 Dona (chassisnumber #1531230?) Italy MI L47392 GTAm #59 Tour de France 1970 Darniche-Demange (DNF) (chassisnumber #1531230?) Italy MI L47391 GTAm #45 Critérium des Cévennes 1970 "Christine"-"Biche" (15th) Winner "Coupe des Dames" and #57 Tour de France 1970 Barailler-Fayel (DNF) Italy MI L26447 GTAm #60 Tour de France 1970 Dieudonné-Curien (14th) (chassisnumber #1531034) entered by SOFAR Italy MI L26448 GTAm #57 Tour de France 1971 Chasseuil-Baron (16th) entered by SOFAR Italy MI K63991 GTAm #47 Critérium des Cévennes 1970 Consten-Todt (3th) Italy MI K97829 GTAm #58 Tour de France 1970 Pianta-Alemani (7th) Italy ?? ??????? GTAm #56 Tour de France 1970 Verrier-Vanson (SOFAR ??) Germany MA HE 555 GTAm #189 Fassberg 1971 Ertl Holland 93-42-MN GTAm Hezemans (#1530848) Please feel free to add information to this list. Ciao! Olaf |
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