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26 Apr 2006, 12:43 (Ref:1595403) | #76 | ||
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The -034 JM4 looks OK to me Chris, as Alan says he saw it on Venn's 79 car, which makes sense. That year at least 3 F3 JM3s were out, the Guerrero works car, and the 2 RTH/Marlboro ones. I suspect Guerrero may have had a spare, or a 'works development' one too.
The ex-Gorne JM1X, did it go climbing afterwards in Scotland, rings a very vague bell with me ?? Steve help me here ! |
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In 1981 Fraser was again running in the Scottish Hillclimb Championship this time sponsored by Netherton & Worth in the ARGO JM1X |
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26 Apr 2006, 15:28 (Ref:1595526) | #78 | |||
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(a) Fraser ran at Barbon in May 1980 (race number 66) (b) Fraser was also at Barbon in May 1981 (race number 62) (c) He also ran at the first Shelsley Walsh of 1981 (race number 103) (d) finally he was at Harewood in July 1981 where the Argo was entered as follows: Boss Hog Argo JM1X Smith Unfortunately I didn't take any photos of Fraser in the Argo - must not have impressed me! |
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27 Apr 2006, 11:18 (Ref:1596152) | #79 | ||
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Was Daisy Duke there with him Steve, well worth a look at her chassis no...
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27 Apr 2006, 18:20 (Ref:1596424) | #81 | ||
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6) Keep pleasantries and banter to an absolute minimum Gentlemen, this is like the Library - serious business, the archive! |
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9 May 2006, 11:16 (Ref:1604134) | #83 | ||
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Anyone know anything about the Argo (JM6?) owned by Bob Geeson and used by Ilias Efessios to win a libre at Brands Hatch in November 1981?
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15 May 2006, 09:35 (Ref:1610336) | #86 | ||
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Makes sense Steve, run by Goodwin Raciung here in 1981, as a 'works assisted' car IIRC. Lees had it initially, then ran out of cash, Desire Wilson had at least one run in it, others too maybe??
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15 May 2006, 13:54 (Ref:1610593) | #87 | ||
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John Lewis had a couple of late season outings in it.
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2 Jun 2006, 07:54 (Ref:1625188) | #88 | ||
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Eddie Wilkins was out at Brands Hatch (May 27/28) in his JM14, now fitted with original side pods rather than the narrow ones of last year. The chassis plate appears to be stamped 12822 with what could be a scratched prefix of JM. The plate was on the car when he bought it. Any explanation?
Could it be a JM12 frame converted (at the time) to an early JM14. Did the JM14 not appear in 1983? Alan Brown (See also here:- http://tentenths.com/forum/showpost....5&postcount=23 -JT) Last edited by John Turner; 15 Sep 2006 at 19:06. |
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2 Jun 2006, 10:12 (Ref:1625309) | #90 | ||
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Welcome Stephen. There may be many other Argo production mysteries that you can solve for us. How long did you work at Argo?
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2 Jun 2006, 12:59 (Ref:1625438) | #92 | |||
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Colin Lees was our driver sponsored by a used car warranty company. I left before season end, I don't know what became of Ivor Goodwyn but Lees was later to have an interest in Mondiale. Nick Jordan is still about, I saw him as the 'expert' on Scrapheap challenge a while ago...there will be nothing he doesn't know about Argo Cars. |
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2 Jun 2006, 14:15 (Ref:1625485) | #93 | ||
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Stephen, any idea why Goodwin chose to buy the Argo, and not a Ralt or March. Did he get a good deal on it, or was he a mate of Marquart/Jordans from prior days? Or perhaps, like a few F3 teams, he'd thought the excellent performance of the 1980 F3 cars meant the 81 range were going to be good...
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2 Jun 2006, 14:59 (Ref:1625517) | #94 | ||
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Allen..Up to then I don't think Jo Marquat had designed a 'bad' car..the JM8 was meant to run without a front wing a la F1 practice of the day, it was a step forward, Tassin via the Team Holland connection was the 81 driver and it looked a good bet. Ivor Goodwin was not the easiest guy to get on with and could never be described as a friend of Argo but I guess was offered a deal to move the Atlantic programme along. Argo were flat out building F3 cars presumeably as were their competitors.
Between Argo having too much on their plate and me helping them out with their workload, I don't think Ivor got a very good deal. Add to that the poor performance of the car, we could never get any temperature into the oversize control tyres and the precarious nature of the sponsor the project had little chance of success. Fond memories for me though, there were a few other customers assembling cars and we all had a fine time enjoying Norfolk hospitality..Steve |
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23 Jul 2006, 18:40 (Ref:1662846) | #96 | |||
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Yes, at least one JM9 did get to the US and I raced it for a while. Can't even remember if it had a chassis tag - I believe it did. I sold it in the late 80's to a chap in New Jersey. I'll try to find some records when I get home. |
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24 Jul 2006, 12:41 (Ref:1663353) | #97 | ||
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Charles, I presume this was -056, the ex Arnold Irish car, then to the US for Blackwell, Knoll, Edwards ?? How was the car, and where did you race it?
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24 Jul 2006, 12:51 (Ref:1663358) | #98 | ||
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Dan, It was my first atlantic car and first ground effects model so the learning curves were high. Car ran well in mid-div US SCCA races (Memphis, St Louis, etc.). In thinking the time line I probably bought it was around 1989 or even 90 and held it for a couple of years. I sold it to a vintage racer in the northeast US. I'll try to get some more accurate input when I get back to the colonies. Cheers
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9 Oct 2006, 09:40 (Ref:1732711) | #99 | ||
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Under wraps!
Curently undergoing a much needed refurbish is Argo JM8-053-F3. This car was run by Mark Lawrence in sprints and hillclimbs with a Toyota engine fitted. The Toyota was then replaced with a Rover V8 and John Fellows joined Mark behind the wheel. The car passed through several hands (including Mike Morgan) before Keith Harris acquired it. As Harris is having difficulties squeezing into the cockpit once the work is completed the car will be back up for sale.
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9 Oct 2006, 16:31 (Ref:1733169) | #100 | ||
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Steve, do any of your contacts know who had the car in its 'heyday', ie F3 1981??
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