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View Poll Results: Which combination will win Bathurst?
1. Whincup/Dumbrell 888 HOLDEN 10 26.32%
2. Pye/Luff WAU HOLDEN 2 5.26%
5. Winterbottom/Canto Tickford FORD 1 2.63%
6. Waters/Russell Tickford FORD 0 0%
7. Heimgartner/Russell NisMoAu NISSAN 0 0%
8. Percat/Jones BJR HOLDEN 0 0%
9. Reynolds/Youlden Erebus HOLDEN 0 0%
12. Coulthard/D’Alberto DJRTP FORD 1 2.63%
14. Slade/Walsh BJR HOLDEN 0 0%
15. Kelly/Jacobson NisMoAu NISSAN 0 0%
17. McLaughlin/Premat DJRTP FORD 6 15.79%
18. Holdsworth/Bright Team18 HOLDEN 1 2.63%
19. Le Brocq/Webb Tekno HOLDEN 0 0%
21. Blanchard/Wood TBR HOLDEN 0 0%
23. Caruso/Fiore NisMoAu NISSAN 0 0%
25. Courtney/Perkins WAU HOLDEN 0 0%
33. Tander/Pither GRM HOLDEN 2 5.26%
34. Golding/Muscat GRM HOLDEN 0 0%
35. Hazelwood/Fullwood MSR HOLDEN 0 0%
55. Mostert/Moffat Tickford FORD 1 2.63%
56. Stanaway/Owen Tickford FORD 0 0%
78. De Silvestro/Rullo NisMoAu NISSAN 1 2.63%
97. Van Gisbergen/Bamber 888 HOLDEN 7 18.42%
99. De Pasquale/Brown Erebus HOLDEN 0 0%
230. Davison/Davison 23Red FORD 0 0%
888. Lowndes/Richards 888 HOLDEN 6 15.79%
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Old 4 Dec 2018, 08:59 (Ref:3867802)   #196
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Is there a story or is it predominantly full of images?
168 pages total.About 20 pages text,13 pages stats and the balance photos.
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168 pages total.About 20 pages text,13 pages stats and the balance photos.
How can something with only 20 pages of text be a replacement for the Great Race series?

Isn't V8Sleuth putting one out too?
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How can something with only 20 pages of text be a replacement for the Great Race series?

Isn't V8Sleuth putting one out too?
Thanks for the heads up on the Noonan book as I wasn't aware of it.I have ordered it and will get back with a comparison when it arrives.Its raining Bathurst annuals!
As for your comment about comparing the V8 Xtra book to The Great Race while it isn't the minute by minute car by car commentary that book was in 20 pages of text you can give a lot of detail.As a point of comparison Chevrons big Bathurst history books had 6-7 pages on each race.
The fantastic Le Mans race annual has no long form text at all until you get to the Technical Review and an interview at the end of the book.It uses 4-5 line descriptors besides each photo.There are lots of ways to do this.
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Most of my Great Race books have 260 pages. And six "editorial contributors"

They look great all lined up in the bookcase and everyone asks "how come you don't have any after 2011???"
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Received the Noonan Bathurst book and thought I'd post a comparison with the Clarke (V8Xtra) book.Two race annuals that are radically different in nearly every way.
Price-about $75 each
Printing Details-Noonan book is soft cover with non gloss paper and 190 pages.Clarke book is hard cover with gloss paper and 168 pages.
Text details-Noonan book has equivalent of one page of writing covering practice,qualifying and shootout.Clarke book has 10 pages of writing for this.As for race Clarke book has about 8 pages of text.For Noonan book this is where it gets unique/strange.There is no race description.Instead each car has its own 4 page "chapter" with about two thirds of a page of text (about half of which is driver quotes) and the rest is photos of that car.
Statistics-Race statistics pretty similar except Noonan book has a lap chart.Noonan book also includes a chassis history of each car and about 12 pages of race history stats.
My conclusions.Knowing the previous publications both have done I would have backed the Noonan book to be the best.However soft cover and non glossy paper are big drawbacks and would reflect the higher cost of printing in Australia.Previous motor racing yearbooks that have tried non gloss paper (Great Race 1989 and Autocourse/Motocourse 2004) have faced consumer backlash and reverted to gloss after 1 year.The only Yearbook I get that has maintained non gloss paper is the one for the Nurburgring 24 Hour however the paper quality is much higher for the German book.As for the text for all pre race stuff 1 page is as pathetic as it sounds..As for the race I would assume that people wanting a yearbook of the race would want a race description in there somewhere.Whether that is in a straight text format like The Great Race,a detailed photograph caption format like the Le Mans Annual or mainly photographic with a written summary like Nurburgring(although the written part is a lot more detailed if you can read German for that one).I think there is a reason why no other annual has ever used the Noonan format and that is because it is terrible.
At the most I would think only one of these can survive.I hope it is the Clarke book as I wouldn't buy the Noonan one again even if it was the only one on the market.Hate to be so critical but it reflects my disappointment.
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I forgot there is 1 other option.Velocity magazine publishes a Bathurst 1000 edition.I haven't seen the 2018 edition but it would be similar to the 2017 one I guess.Details are
Price-$15
Print Details-64 pages.Book quality gloss paper
Text-5 pages practice/qualifying/shootout.8 pages race
Statistics-only qualifying times and basic race results(order and laps completed).
Also includes 8 pages covering support races
That's it.Who will survive the Bathurst annual hunger games?
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Great summaries Alan52
I will probably get one of these, now a question of which one
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https://www.theage.com.au/business/w...12-p50x5q.html

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Will Supercars look to distance themselves from Supercheap?
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Probably not.

Underpaying staff happens way more than most think.

My mother has gone through this with every single employer she's been with over the past 15 years. My partner has gone through it twice in the past 4 months.

For those playing at home; get very familiar with the award and pay rate you're working under, before agreeing to the terms of employment.
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Old 12 Feb 2019, 01:48 (Ref:3883427)   #205
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I forgot there is 1 other option.Velocity magazine publishes a Bathurst 1000 edition.I haven't seen the 2018 edition but it would be similar to the 2017 one I guess.Details are
Price-$15
Print Details-64 pages.Book quality gloss paper
Text-5 pages practice/qualifying/shootout.8 pages race
Statistics-only qualifying times and basic race results(order and laps completed).
Also includes 8 pages covering support races
That's it.Who will survive the Bathurst annual hunger games?
For those looking at the DJR yearbook it is really a compilation of press releases and endless photos of the same two cars. I am more than a little disappointed with it.
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Geez, I can be a dill, because we camped at Bathurst last year, you get preference booking for the following years event, I buggered up the dates and missed the cut off date.

I couldn't get online yesterday to get camping tickets when they opened for the general public, but my young bloke got us 2 sites at the new campground, just south of the Chase campground

See you up there in October
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Geez, I can be a dill, because we camped at Bathurst last year, you get preference booking for the following years event, I buggered up the dates and missed the cut off date.

I couldn't get online yesterday to get camping tickets when they opened for the general public, but my young bloke got us 2 sites at the new campground, just south of the Chase campground

See you up there in October
Good Job mate, IM having a rest this year as I will be travelling. Maybe 2020 or 2021 for me
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