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Old 12 Aug 2019, 07:10 (Ref:3922375)   #7141
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Some cheap garage converted LMP2 will newer be BOPed to the same level as the hypercar.

It's simple, If one want's to have best chances to win LeMans, one must get to hypercar class. Others will have their chance only when hypercars run into issues. Face it, it's the only reality.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 07:21 (Ref:3922377)   #7142
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Some cheap garage converted LMP2 will newer be BOPed to the same level as the hypercar.
The target lap time for hypercar is 3:30. LMP2 are already ahead of that.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 08:18 (Ref:3922380)   #7143
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They WERE ahead of that lap time. Slowing down LMP2 is a simple task for regulators, even if one reworks LMP2 into to LMP1 the regulators will still slow them down under hypercar class.

I just hope the target 3:30 is a joke and we will se lower times than that.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 09:11 (Ref:3922385)   #7144
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No they ARE ahead of that lap time. They currently lap faster than that. So you don't need to BoP up an LMP2 to Hypercar speed. You need to BoP it down.

If you're referring to the next generation LMP2, then it's impossible to claim because nobody knows what it is. But certainly, the current generation is capable of those lap times.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 09:32 (Ref:3922391)   #7145
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Yes I know, the thread is Future regulation, so I was writing ahead of the time.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 12:15 (Ref:3922411)   #7146
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Yes I know, the thread is Future regulation, so I was writing ahead of the time.
But you are making guarantees about a category no one knows anything about, BOP that can't be established yet since there are NO cars to balance, and frankly a field that may NEED cars outside of the hypercar realm just to maintain the WEC moniker the ACO and FIA seem so desperate to think is needed. 2 Toyota and Glickenhaus cars aren't going to keep things going, and no one else is even close to promoting a car, at this point Aston has so many other things to worry about it's in the same boat as Ginetta and ByKolles bringing forth a hypercar. Although AMR's boat may been even leakier.
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What else is there to know? "Hypercar" class will be the top class all other classes will be regulated according to the performance of this top class.

There is test day and a few races before LeMans, plenty of time to make final adjustments.
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Old 12 Aug 2019, 13:29 (Ref:3922422)   #7148
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What else is there to know?
Everything. We literally know nothing about the new LMP2.

Also, the chat was about grand-fathering in current LMP1/LMP2 cars. Both of these classes are fast enough to beat the Hypercar target time.
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Everything. We literally know nothing about the new LMP2.

Also, the chat was about grand-fathering in current LMP1/LMP2 cars. Both of these classes are fast enough to beat the Hypercar target time.
They are going to end up with the IMSA DP & P2 issues if they try to BoP two formulas (HC & P1) that are so different
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Did I miss something about Aston ending their program? I understand the company may be missing their financial targets, but has there been any word on their racing activities?
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Did I miss something about Aston ending their program? I understand the company may be missing their financial targets, but has there been any word on their racing activities?
None. As you were.
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Did I miss something about Aston ending their program? I understand the company may be missing their financial targets, but has there been any word on their racing activities?
Nothing about their racing activities but AMR continues to generate very unflattering stories in the financial press. It's more than merely missing financial targets. The company's stock has lost three-quarters of its value, it has gobs of debt and doesn't generate a lot of cash flow, and its management's credibility is repeatedly being called into question.

As an example, there's a Bloomberg analysis piece out today titled “Aston Martin Thought It Had Won The Lottery.” Seems that Aston Martin almost certainly won't be getting the £20 million it had previously booked as income for the tooling and design drawings for the Vanquish. And £20 million is a lot on money for Aston Martin.

The company clearly has major issues. In those circumstances, it's not unreasonable to wonder about the future of Aston Martin's racing efforts in general and its hypercar program in particular.
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What else is there to know? "Hypercar" class will be the top class all other classes will be regulated according to the performance of this top class.

There is test day and a few races before LeMans, plenty of time to make final adjustments.
I understood you, and agree. Some people are being too literal it seems. The CURRENT lmp2's will be slowed down if need be. I emphasize current because the ruleset for these cars are here for another few year. They will probably have the power reduced and/or added weight to make them that much slower than the upcoming hypercar. The 'target' hypercar times of 3:30 is race laps, not qualifying. They'll be as fast as current Super GT GT500's if you do the on-paper math. 750hp and 1100kg (too high imo) with as much downforce as those cars. Current lmp2 is slightly slower than GT500's (at Fuji is the only reference), so imo there's no reason to think lmp2 will be a threat unless every hypercar/lmp1 runs into issues or dnf's or the ACO want to shoot themselves in the foot and have the classes equal.
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Some hypercar chatter from Oreca and Rebellion:

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...y-end-of-year/
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Some thoughts on slowing LMP2 (and the rest) relative to not-so-hypercar.

https://sportscar365.com/lemans/wec/...ear-too-early/
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