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18 Apr 2019, 01:04 (Ref:3898311)
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The summer series seems to have gone into hiatus...
...yet there are pressures from existing contracts, timing of the Grand Prix, and an as yet unexplained desire to put a long mid season break in the middle of the championship
Story Here
Perhaps the new season will start in January.. maybe it won't..
Presumably the teams might like to know like soonish to plan car & parts builds and/or sales deliveries, leave requirements and any other thing..
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18 Apr 2019, 01:18 (Ref:3898312)
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The summer series push was a ridiculous concept.
If that's been put aside, then any revised alternative based on the current series has got to be a better option.
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18 Apr 2019, 03:45 (Ref:3898324)
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They should schedule every second race somewhere overseas with a capable wind tunnel in close vicinity - complete two races, adjust parity, complete two races, adjust parity etc.
My preference would be to adjust parity before the season, but I'm not as intelligent as the men and women who decide these things
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18 Apr 2019, 10:17 (Ref:3898359)
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Sydney Motorsport Park must be raising their eyebrows at this story...
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19 Apr 2019, 01:04 (Ref:3898493)
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Originally Posted by GTRMagic
The summer series seems to have gone into hiatus...
...yet there are pressures from existing contracts, timing of the Grand Prix, and an as yet unexplained desire to put a long mid season break in the middle of the championship
Story Here
Perhaps the new season will start in January.. maybe it won't..
Presumably the teams might like to know like soonish to plan car & parts builds and/or sales deliveries, leave requirements and any other thing..
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Mid season break has been explained many times - team members actually need a break, they're gagging for it now but if the calendar starts earlier and finishes later than now, then the break will be sorely needed.
Amazes me that the author of the story thinks that a night race at SMP might suit January - with daylight saving and the long summer days, that would be a LATE starting race!
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19 Apr 2019, 01:15 (Ref:3898500)
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Yes, those breaks have their uses. It’s common sense, but must be done at the right time.
A night race would be good, but again that must be the right time
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19 Apr 2019, 01:16 (Ref:3898501)
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Yes, at night.
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19 Apr 2019, 01:18 (Ref:3898502)
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Well one at dusk would be quite nice
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19 Apr 2019, 05:44 (Ref:3898523)
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If they spend the millions on permanent lighting at Eastern Creek and run the race in January they realise that only the last 40-50 minutes of the race will actually need the lights right?
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19 Apr 2019, 13:46 (Ref:3898584)
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If they spend the millions on permanent lighting at Eastern Creek and run the race in January they realise that only the last 40-50 minutes of the race will actually need the lights right?
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I hardly think the lights are going in for the Supercars race, that would just be a bonus
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3 Jul 2019, 03:00 (Ref:3915591)
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Phillip Island & Winton Out?
Low attendance at each venue... but then that would knock out Eastern Creek too if they were serious
Losing rounds at permanent tracks will cause apoplexy for a few people....
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3 Jul 2019, 03:24 (Ref:3915594)
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Phillip Island & Winton Out?
Low attendance at each venue... but then that would knock out Eastern Creek too if they were serious
Losing rounds at permanent tracks will cause apoplexy for a few people....
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I can't see Winton losing their round. Supercars have none of the risk, as they aren't the promotor, and are guaranteed their 'sanctioning fee' just for turning up.
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3 Jul 2019, 08:14 (Ref:3915612)
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Teams want to do the minimum number of events to fulfil the TV contracts. They don't receive extra cash from doing more rounds, so they want to cut rounds off.
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3 Jul 2019, 09:12 (Ref:3915617)
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Only thirteen events...... That is less than 2014 when Mr Warburton kept telling us the series was on its knees because of a bad TV deal..... I thought the Foxtel deal was supposed to improve the sport, not provide less cars and less events?
Thirteen events is also less than in 1996.....a time that Tony Cochrane kept telling us was awful and the sport was on its knees
Maybe Supercars/Archer should just hand it all back to CAMS and we can get on with things
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3 Jul 2019, 22:26 (Ref:3915752)
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Only thirteen events...... That is less than 2014 when Mr Warburton kept telling us the series was on its knees because of a bad TV deal..... I thought the Foxtel deal was supposed to improve the sport, not provide less cars and less events?
Thirteen events is also less than in 1996.....a time that Tony Cochrane kept telling us was awful and the sport was on its knees
Maybe Supercars/Archer should just hand it all back to CAMS and we can get on with things
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Speedcafe article said 14 events, not 13.
14 events was the norm for many years in the noughties - comprised of 13 points rounds of the championship and one non-points event at the AGP. The sport was doing OK then.
Granted that 14 is one less than the current 15 round series but I hardly think that reducing the number of rounds by one event means annihilation and a "hand it back to cams" scenario.
On the other hand, WHERE the events are run is quite important I think. If the story is accurate about PI (great track but doesn't draw a big crowd for car racing) and Winton missing out, that would be a great shame and leave Vic with the AGP and Sandown - but if Sandown is to lose the 500km race to the bend, that would be a really big mistake IMHO - experience shows that sticking with some traditions does make a difference and it would be a great shame for the sport to make the mistake of moving that event before it is forced to by Sandown's much-discussed future closure. I guess it's a case of "money talks" with the bend.
As for handing "it all back to CAMS" - LOL, the confederation got out of running it precisely because they knew at the time they were a governing body and not good promoters. Not much change these days really - nothing wrong with the Shannons Nationals as a series but 7 events at 6 tracks and much lower crowds, not a live TV series etc mean that it's not in the same league from the point of view of being a promoter.
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