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16 Jun 2019, 20:56 (Ref:3912257)
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Actually, the stock Valkyrie weighs nearly 1100kg.
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16 Jun 2019, 21:41 (Ref:3912276)
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Actually, the stock Valkyrie weighs nearly 1100kg.
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I know, and that's the point. They seemingly want as little work to do as possible. We'll see but from what we know so far that's how it appears.
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16 Jun 2019, 22:04 (Ref:3912286)
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How are they going to "balance" that aero?
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16 Jun 2019, 22:35 (Ref:3912295)
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How are they going to "balance" that aero?
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well it's an already almost impossible task to balance NA and turbo engines, balance aero will be quite unlikely. BTW, don't think that amr will bring a valkirye chassis to race... to me multimatic will build a lmp like carbon tub fitted with the V12 and will build a valkirye like bodywork around
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16 Jun 2019, 23:00 (Ref:3912300)
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well it's an already almost impossible task to balance NA and turbo engines, balance aero will be quite unlikely. BTW, don't think that amr will bring a valkirye chassis to race... to me multimatic will build a lmp like carbon tub fitted with the V12 and will build a valkirye like bodywork around
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Then it's only a Valkyrie in name with a detuned version of the 'same' engine powering the road car.  I don't know if that's the case here. Seems they want to bring the actual VALKYRIE to Le Mans, not a prototype with a look-alike bodykit.
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16 Jun 2019, 23:15 (Ref:3912304)
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Well, the Valkyrie is basically sort of like what the ACO/FIA envision Hypercar being. So in that way, I can't really blame Aston Martin for wanting to give the car a place to race. It's more LMP for the road than F1 car for the road IMO, anyways.
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17 Jun 2019, 00:59 (Ref:3912327)
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How are they going to "balance" that aero?
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17 Jun 2019, 14:21 (Ref:3912426)
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Originally Posted by canaglia
well it's an already almost impossible task to balance NA and turbo engines, balance aero will be quite unlikely. BTW, don't think that amr will bring a valkirye chassis to race... to me multimatic will build a lmp like carbon tub fitted with the V12 and will build a valkirye like bodywork around
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Forgive my potential ignorance, but doesn't this go against the point of the whole thing being road car based?
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17 Jun 2019, 19:59 (Ref:3912499)
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Forgive my potential ignorance, but doesn't this go against the point of the whole thing being road car based?
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That's what I was thinking in my last post. If that's the case, then the Valkyrie isn't all that different in race spec. If it's 1100kg in race trim, then there's basically no difference in terms of weight from what the road car is. The regs are tailored to them because they wanted to enter this thing. So with that in mind, there's your reason of the relatively high weight.
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17 Jun 2019, 20:33 (Ref:3912510)
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How much does the Rimac KERS system weight? It's suprising they don't know if they will run hybrid or not.
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18 Jun 2019, 02:11 (Ref:3912588)
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Forgive my potential ignorance, but doesn't this go against the point of the whole thing being road car based?
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Indeed. I would assume the homologation process is not too different from the way it is done in GTE.
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21 Jun 2019, 00:55 (Ref:3913205)
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I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?
Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.
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21 Jun 2019, 09:05 (Ref:3913248)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chernaudi
I'm wondering what will/won't be allowed in the Hypercar LMP1 regs. The front wing and huge tunnels on the Valkyrie can't be legal per the ACO, right?
Also, Graham from DSC in the non-ACO specific Aston Martin Racing thread said that the Valhalla was supposed to form the original basis for AMR's LMP1 Hypercar. I wonder what changed that and what form a Valhalla influenced LMP1 might have taken, be it GTE+ or a DPI-like LMP1 like what Toyota's might very well be.
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I'm not 100% but the article I linked to from Japanese Autosport seemingly says that the under body is more open than the current regs.
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21 Jun 2019, 15:32 (Ref:3913332)
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
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21 Jun 2019, 15:43 (Ref:3913334)
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Anyone know whether these cars will need to have BHH/BHF. Or could we finally be rid of that sh*te due to the slower speeds, roadcar cues etc.
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I'm guessing fin will still be there but maybe some leeway on the fender holes?
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