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Old 31 Jul 2019, 09:14 (Ref:3920514)   #16
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I wouldn't be happy, particularly if my sponsors are still on the car.


I take it Dare approved of the driver change if their signage still stays..
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Old 31 Jul 2019, 23:18 (Ref:3920604)   #17
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Yep, we do - including in the speed comparison sessions that chavez shared. Similar comparisons have been done at Bathurst and other circuits.

I don't understand the reluctance to talk about lap times. Laptimes at Bathurst comparing GT3 with Supercars is almost a guaranteed part of any discussion around the 12 hour each year. Why should this be any different?

Being slower or faster doesn't make for better or worse - simply cars being built to different tech rules. Any difference in lap times is of interest but it ain't anything more than that.


There is just little point , in my opinion, in comparing laptimes of different categories built to completely different rules and objectives. As you say laptimes bear no relation to a better or worse race

It just leads to a ****fight, as you note with the 12hr each year

Comparing the laptimes between Will Brown's Hyundai and Whincup's Commodore is a much different conversation than a speed comparison at the AGP featuring an old F1 two-seater, a V8 ride car and whatever production car the organisers have found a manufacturer to supply
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Nothing wrong comparing lap times of different categories if it floats your boat - it's interesting but no more than that.

If someone isn't into that, then they're not into that but that's not sufficient reason to rubbish the thought.

Comparing TCR & V8SA times is just an interest, same as comparing F1 / Supercar times was when it was first run - although I reckon it's been pretty much done to death now.

Nothing wrong with comparing lap times and nothing wrong with not comparing lap times.
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Old 1 Aug 2019, 22:32 (Ref:3920735)   #19
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I wouldn't be happy, particularly if my sponsors are still on the car.
Evidently, the sponsor signage on the car has changed for this weekend with Andre's sponsors coming across.
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Old 2 Aug 2019, 02:50 (Ref:3920756)   #20
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Yet, Dare remains.
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Old 2 Aug 2019, 03:09 (Ref:3920758)   #21
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O'Keeffe fastest, JK Vernay wasting no time. That Audi should be quick at the paperclip. One-off star drivers seem a cute way to avoid compensation ballast.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/02...ctice-1-at-qr/

Andre sat out P1 with dramas.
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Old 2 Aug 2019, 03:58 (Ref:3920761)   #22
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It looks like the second alfa could be a bit of a dog, Jordan Cox did a good number of laps but didnt make progress. They should try Dylan O'Keefe in that car to confirm that it up to scratch.
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O'Keeffe fastest, JK Vernay wasting no time. That Audi should be quick at the paperclip. One-off star drivers seem a cute way to avoid compensation ballast.

https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/02...ctice-1-at-qr/

Andre sat out P1 with dramas.
I wonder if Andre knocked back a paid drive in Asian Blancpain this weekend?
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It looks like the second alfa could be a bit of a dog, Jordan Cox did a good number of laps but didnt make progress. They should try Dylan O'Keefe in that car to confirm that it up to scratch.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/02...19aY2wZ3WMNY0g

Times at the top are amazingly tight. Given how bumpy and tricky QR is, Vernay is very fast. If he gets away at the start I am not sure anybody is going to catch him.

Cox got the second Alfa up to 7th, and Andre is only a poofteenth off Rullo the first outing in the Astra.
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JKV on pole, although by not much.

Bright and the Renaults are nowhere.

Top handful of cars did 1:12.9 laps.
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It looks like the second alfa could be a bit of a dog, Jordan Cox did a good number of laps but didnt make progress. They should try Dylan O'Keefe in that car to confirm that it up to scratch.

Jordan Cox is only 2 tenths slower than O'keefe when the cars are on the same quality rubber in only his second weekend in tcr , does not seem to be too much wrong with the second Alfa.
Maybe the problem area for the second alfa at previous rounds was between the drivers seat and the steering wheel.
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Maybe the problem area for the second alfa at previous rounds was between the drivers seat and the steering wheel.
Aha.... the nut that holds the steering wheel
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JKV on pole, although by not much. Bright and the Renaults are nowhere.
https://www.speedcafe.com/2019/08/03...-Xtzj7RRpyyTfA

With any luck JK will run away and clear out.

Martin looking very consistent, the cream is definitely rising to the top in TCR.

Bright seems to hit someone whenever he is competitive.

Pither having an engine change. That's a worry.
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Pither engine drama seems to be a throwback to the shunt at The Bend.

Car dumped all of its coolant at the time, and may have hurt the engine.
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Pither engine drama seems to be a throwback to the shunt at The Bend.

Car dumped all of its coolant at the time, and may have hurt the engine.
Is it running the famous Renault 2.0 F4RT iron block engine from the old Renault Megane RS (which you'd expect given it's an older car developed by privateers and released a full year before the actual road-going RS), or the new fangled aluminium Nissan MR series 1.8 unit from the current RS and Alpine A110? If the former, you wouldn't expect any troubles.

Shame to hear of the dreaded turbo car heat soak on the Alfa Romeo.

The race sure was a procession and a clear indication the level of the Australian series is far below that of the TCR World Cup series, which is a worry.
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