CC Racing Developments Group 1 Ford Capri Mk III's

[Gerard C]

Indeed. Unfortunately its not me!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Yes James you're right again tanks for correcting me. Of course it was already Group A sorry for the mistake. About the lightweight shells made I read somewhere that Ford supplied MkII fist as Peter says then MkIII and sometimes compete kits to convert a MkII into a MkIII. Just hope this point hasn't been covered in one of the fifty pages of this fascinating thread!

Only ever seen 1 full pic of that 'mule; and one pic with it part hidden at that meeting!

[Gerard C]

Noticed recently that Ford had the #5336 Group 1 homologation form transferred in GroupA later. Probably useless. This model of Capri remains the car of the seventies, not of the eighties imo.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Noticed recently that Ford had the #5336 Group 1 homologation form transferred in GroupA later. Probably useless. This model of Capri remains the car of the seventies, not of the eighties imo.

Oddly enough Eichberg got the old faithful 3.0 running very well in Germany in races like Nurby ERC and 24h and the GP supporters in '82 and '83.
But that was before the pukka new cars got into their stride.

[Gerard C]

Not a CC car but the advert states light body from Ford werks.
She needs a lot of love: https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...caroriginal-24

[GCCheddaris]

You're right Gerard, she definitely needs a lot of TLC. But who knows, this time next year she could be a Goodwood MM entry ? Regarding the lightweight bodywork I'm sure I remember reading that if you leaned too heavily on the bodywork of lightweight Group 1 Capris you could easily cause a dent ! Looking at the number of liveries she has worn in her career, just stripping back the paint should save a few kilos/pounds !

[Gerard C]

Yep, sure you're right GC! From J Walton book I learned about those light shells delivered to some teams direct from Köln workplace. If you keep a standard all steel body I dont think possible to go below 1000 kilos, but the limit for a Mk3 is 1061 from memory. The exhaust pipes look great and the carb could be a DFI 5 as per Grp1 homologation. Eligible in many historic meetings, but Le Mans Classic I dont think so…

[twincamtommy]

Any one have pictures of Neil Brown IDA Inlet manifold, in-side, with the top off, or drawings please.

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Yep, sure you're right GC! From J Walton book I learned about those light shells delivered to some teams direct from Köln workplace. If you keep a standard all steel body I dont think possible to go below 1000 kilos, but the limit for a Mk3 is 1061 from memory. The exhaust pipes look great and the carb could be a DFI 5 as per Grp1 homologation. Eligible in many historic meetings, but Le Mans Classic I dont think so…

Whilst I'd always prefer to run an IDA, there's nothing fundamentally wrong with the DFI 5. And if it runs to the Group 1.5 homologation which was essentially the Francorchamps Group 1 then it should be acceptable.

[Gerard C]

Agreed. The DFI was "the" choice, homologated in FIA Grp1 with two different venturi diameters from memory. Nothing wrong but the 40 mm choke is a natural restrictor. I should remember the 70's rules for the Francorchamps group but I can't! Are you building another Capri if I may ask?

[Peter Mallett]

Originally Posted by Gerard C

Agreed. The DFI was "the" choice, homologated in FIA Grp1 with two different venturi diameters from memory. Nothing wrong but the 40 mm choke is a natural restrictor. I should remember the 70's rules for the Francorchamps group but I can't! Are you building another Capri if I may ask?

Hmm, I have one that can be built relatively quickly,complete with engine and Group 1 suspension etc. An ex Ford motorsport Shell. But I need to sell off the Rover before I commit to anything else.

[Gerard C]

Assuming your steering wheel is on the "right" side, RHD, is the battery tray on the same side or passenger side? We had more than few real Motorsport shells here. I think one is still alive, an ex Dominique Fornage.
The classifieds give only one Grp1 SD1 is for sale, yours, the others being GrpA Vitesse. Right?

[Peter Mallett]

Yup one ex Works SD1 and it's mine, although the sister DPR, ex French Touring Car Rover, now in BSSC spec, is also for sale.

In truth I haven't looked at the Capri for a couple of years but the tray was on the left, passenger side.

[Gerard C]

May be the Motorsport shells could accept either RHD or LHD with a special bulkhead? From the pictures I saw, the Spa cars were RHD. One looks different, the RHD #26 pedaled by Chris Craft/Alain Corbisier in '78 the front scuttle is continental way meaning the wipers are for a LHD. May be a converted MkII? This car took the lead then crashed.

[Peter Mallett]

The battery tray sits at the front of the engine bay behind the headlights, nowhere near the bulkhead.

[twincamtommy]

Hi, Can any one help me with parts I need for my Gp1 Capri restoration please. I need the following parts. NOS, or Mint S/H Mk3 bonnet, NOS or rust free, S/H N/side h/light bucket, NOS or mint N/side door. Mint S or base door & quarter panel trims in Black or brown. please message me, if you can help with this piece
of History.

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by twincamtommy

Hi, Can any one help me with parts I need for my Gp1 Capri restoration please. I need the following parts. NOS, or Mint S/H Mk3 bonnet, NOS or rust free, S/H N/side h/light bucket, NOS or mint N/side door. Mint S or base door & quarter panel trims in Black or brown. please message me, if you can help with this piece
of History.

How are you getting on with the project 12 months on?

[chunterer]

Sad to share the news that Vince Woodman passed away on Wednesday aged 83.

He had been poorly for sometime and one of his sons. James came on last Autumn to update us.

One of the legends of the UK saloon car racing scene.

R.I.P

[chunterer]

Thred refresh!

Looking forward to learning which CCcars are entered for the Goodwood MM in a couple of weeks.

Assuming the quickest and more 'famous' car/owner/driver combos will have been invited back but wonder if any new rebuilds or evocations will make an appearance.

It would be nice if a nod is made to the late Vince Woodman and have as manybof his old cars running or on show as possible.

[Gerard C]

Six Mk III and one MK II from the entry list posted by Malcolm Smith:

https://www.goodwood.com/globalasset...c-29.03.22.pdf
Interesting to see drivers like Soper, Huff, Blomqvist and Needell at wheel.

[zakspeed65]

CC 5 is out of restoration and had a shakedown earlier this year, a small engine issue meant engine out and currently going to dyno then back in car for the upcoming historic racing season in NZ!
I am very happy how the car has come out, went reasonably well for the limited laps I did!
I can’t manage to upload photos but will in due course!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by zakspeed65

CC 5 is out of restoration and had a shakedown earlier this year, a small engine issue meant engine out and currently going to dyno then back in car for the upcoming historic racing season in NZ!
I am very happy how the car has come out, went reasonably well for the limited laps I did!
I can’t manage to upload photos but will in due course!

Happy new year, looking forward to hearing and seeing how the car is going...

[E.B]

Originally Posted by zakspeed65

CC 5 is out of restoration and had a shakedown earlier this year, a small engine issue meant engine out and currently going to dyno then back in car for the upcoming historic racing season in NZ!
I am very happy how the car has come out, went reasonably well for the limited laps I did!
I can’t manage to upload photos but will in due course!

Phillip Island isnt that far from NZ!

Best of luck with it and look forward to any updates

I did notice this though.... NZ based
https://racecarsdirect.com/Advert/De...-group-5-capri

[zakspeed65]

CC5 is ready, shake down done, first historic meeting in a month!

[zakspeed65]

A short clip of the last pull a couple of months back!