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Old 16 May 2020, 07:59 (Ref:3976546)   #91
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How many marshals are needed for the big events vs normal club events?
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Old 16 May 2020, 08:18 (Ref:3976548)   #92
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The meetings will be behind closed doors. So whilst a lot of staff will be temps at the BGP events perhaps as they wont be needed for public use they will end up paying these staff to be marshals..
You can't just take a bunch of programme sellers and expect them to act as marshals.
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Old 16 May 2020, 11:02 (Ref:3976571)   #93
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i don't think many drivers would want programme sellers or parking attendants to come to their rescue if they needed their assistance too unless they completed all the training, that is.

makes me wonder if they encourage race makers to consider marshalling at silverstone?
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Old 16 May 2020, 11:09 (Ref:3976573)   #94
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i don't think many drivers would want programme sellers or parking attendants to come to their rescue if they needed their assistance too unless they completed all the training, that is.

makes me wonder if they encourage race makers to consider marshalling at silverstone?
There are a few people I know of who are both racemakers and marshals, but not many, and most of them are marshals first.

The pink shirt brigade see the same stuff about marshalling as everyone else and I understand some have attended taster days (not just at Silverstone) but I'm yet to meet anyone who's made the jump. That's not saying there aren't any, I just don't know of any!

Your first observation is obviously the right one
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Old 16 May 2020, 14:13 (Ref:3976596)   #95
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I for one would be happy to help out.
When I stopped racing I went through the marshalling grades and onto being a Driving Standards Observer (BGP 1999) Clerk & then a Steward.
I know I'm not the only one in this position.

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Old 16 May 2020, 14:49 (Ref:3976600)   #96
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motorsport uk could do with running a "left marshalling and want to return?" campaign couldn't they?

didn't think it was going to be too big a problem initially but now they've scheduled the british gps it looks like someone's going to come up short somewhere. hmm.
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Old 16 May 2020, 15:11 (Ref:3976603)   #97
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There are a few people I know of who are both racemakers and marshals, but not many, and most of them are marshals first.

The pink shirt brigade see the same stuff about marshalling as everyone else and I understand some have attended taster days (not just at Silverstone) but I'm yet to meet anyone who's made the jump. That's not saying there aren't any, I just don't know of any!

Your first observation is obviously the right one
Serious question to experienced Marshals; There have been drivers who have marshalled alongside experienced crews in order to either gain knowledge and experience of the work that Marshals do, or in some cases to gain a licence signature in order to help get them an upgrade.

In the case of the 1/2 August weekend where it's clearly going to be tough to get the right balance of quality and quantity, would the Marshals WANT support from drivers who are not racing at present on these events if it helped out? If so, would there be mileage in going via Motorsport UK to appeal to drivers to support Marshals at these (and other) events?
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Old 16 May 2020, 16:47 (Ref:3976618)   #98
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Serious question to experienced Marshals; There have been drivers who have marshalled alongside experienced crews in order to either gain knowledge and experience of the work that Marshals do, or in some cases to gain a licence signature in order to help get them an upgrade.

In the case of the 1/2 August weekend where it's clearly going to be tough to get the right balance of quality and quantity, would the Marshals WANT support from drivers who are not racing at present on these events if it helped out? If so, would there be mileage in going via Motorsport UK to appeal to drivers to support Marshals at these (and other) events?
Nice to have the offer but until such time as we know when events are confirmed as running (not provisional wishlist), how they are going to be run (as approved by Government, Motorsport UK, Clubs and Circuits), what sort of numbers of marshals are needed and how many marshals volunteer then no one has any idea as to what, if any, shortfall there might be in marshal numbers.
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Old 16 May 2020, 18:18 (Ref:3976622)   #99
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Forgive me here, but Marshalls are an army of trained unpaid professionals. The average employee on a circuits payroll won't have the necessary skills to perform the task; it's not just waving flags at random and brushing gravel off the track!
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Old 16 May 2020, 18:51 (Ref:3976627)   #100
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Old 16 May 2020, 19:03 (Ref:3976630)   #101
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Forgive me here, but Marshalls are an army of trained unpaid professionals. The average employee on a circuits payroll won't have the necessary skills to perform the task; it's not just waving flags at random and brushing gravel off the track!
In the context of this forum Id give credit to its members that they know this.
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Old 16 May 2020, 20:28 (Ref:3976648)   #102
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One thing I think Mr Gow should seriously consider is not always having BTCC race 3 as the last race of the day. It just creates an unnessasary rush to the exit for every single person trackside. Years back before the live TV there would be at least 1 race after race 3 in order to stagger the exit of crowd. My first race at Oulton Park in 1997 I think there was two events after race 2 of the BTCC, which meant a much more orderly exit at the end of the day.
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Old 16 May 2020, 20:33 (Ref:3976652)   #103
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One thing I think Mr Gow should seriously consider is not always having BTCC race 3 as the last race of the day. It just creates an unnessasary rush to the exit for every single person trackside. Years back before the live TV there would be at least 1 race after race 3 in order to stagger the exit of crowd. My first race at Oulton Park in 1997 I think there was two events after race 2 of the BTCC, which meant a much more orderly exit at the end of the day.
Alan likes to get the crowds involved such as allowing the crowds on to the track to watch the race 3 podium at Brands Hatch, you can't do that very well while gridding up a load of Ginetta's.

It would certainly ease the demand on the local roads if there was a race or two to watch after the last BTCC race but ITV is king, so what they want goes.
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