Group B pictures - Page 2

chunder · 27 Jan 2006, 18:45 (Ref:1510305)

The MR2 was built by TTE and ran in testing, but I think it was being designed as a Group S car, much like teh Delta EPS or whatever it was.
Audi also had a mid engined Quattro built allegedly and I suppose Peugeot might have used the 405 in S
Still not sure how on earth Renny and DSRM managed to get a car that early to be honest!
I am also thinking that unbeknonst to anyone here the French guys might have had an E1 "05 in 85 possibly or at least 86, but i fear that FRench rallycross only really took off later on with the big money teams and guys like Saby, Warmbergue and Frequelin involved. Though I do seem to remember Gerard Roussell ice racing hid R5 Maxi round a bone dry track in front of the bewildered ERC regulars one time back then!!

F.O.F. · 27 Jan 2006, 18:49 (Ref:1510307)

oh sorry,i didn't scroll down

DFP · 27 Jan 2006, 19:21 (Ref:1510322)

Quote:

Originally Posted by WJM

The car is Hopkins', I don't recall Reeves ever driving a Group B?

I agree, Reeves did not run an RS200

peespeed · 27 Jan 2006, 19:42 (Ref:1510337)

Sorry I thought it was Reeves, was only a young lad when I took the pic

WJM · 27 Jan 2006, 19:47 (Ref:1510340)

Quote:

Originally Posted by chunder

Still not sure how on earth Renny and DSRM managed to get a car that early to be honest!

Well they were just road cars, and they had to be on sale before it could be homologated I guess?

Quote:

I am also thinking that unbeknonst to anyone here the French guys might have had an E1 "05 in 85 possibly or at least 86, but i fear that FRench rallycross only really took off later on with the big money teams and guys like Saby, Warmbergue and Frequelin involved. Though I do seem to remember Gerard Roussell ice racing hid R5 Maxi round a bone dry track in front of the bewildered ERC regulars one time back then!!

I have looked it up for you. They might have did one-offs but they didn't finish in the top20 of the final standings. By the start (and the end) of 1987 there were a few E1's, but nothing more. I think the regulations were a little different or something. By that time all experienced drivers were developping Group A cars, instead of Group B machines. Roussels Renault 5 was even modified for Rallycross. Generally they see '88-'90 as their Group B era. I did found that one of the E1 drivers in '87, Francois Dumas, did drive Autcross (including his own EC round) with that car in '86. I can't find 100% confirmation however, my French is reasonable but not good enough, other sources say he did drive, but not with what.

GeeRam · 28 Jan 2006, 23:49 (Ref:1511017)

Quote:

Originally Posted by 206180

Starion was probably a Group A car, Sunbeam and Chevette Group 4.

Sunbeam-Lotus was never a Group 4 car, it was only homologated as a Group 2 car before being reclassifed in the Group B category with the Manta 400 etc in 83 as mentioned.

GeeRam · 28 Jan 2006, 23:53 (Ref:1511019)

Quote:

Originally Posted by silver bullet

Ingvar Carlsson in a Group B Mazda RX7 on the 1985 RAC Rally, in the Lightwater Valley Stage.

I can still remember clearly being stood in the Wark stage at about mindnight, the temprature must have been about -5c,

You were lucky, at the same time I lying underneath a rallycar in a service area.....

moyzer · 31 Jan 2006, 14:12 (Ref:1512739)

Yummy 205 T16 action..........

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=rally+cross

fullcircle · 31 Jan 2006, 15:15 (Ref:1512770)

Have a look at this one. Little bit of rallycross at the end

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...=rally+group+b

**BertMk2** · 2 Feb 2006, 08:52 (Ref:1514047)

I've split the Group B vs Modern machinery conversation off into its own thread:

http://tentenths.com/forum/showthread.php?t=79097

Can we keep this thread for pictures and videos please (and plenty of them

)

(

I helped drag this off topic so I thought I'd better sort it out

)

**silver bullet** · 2 Feb 2006, 11:28 (Ref:1514151)

OK Bert here's a few more of mine, mostly rallycross but we'll start with a rally one.
Ari Vatanen, 205 T16, 84 RAC, Lowther Park
Matti Alamaki's T16 In the paddock at Mondello
Finn Jespersen's 911 at the 90 Internations Cup, Croft
Pat Doran leads Schanche and Gibson at Lydden
Mark Flaherty at Anglesey
Not strictly a group B version, but here's the Renault 5 of Roger Newbould
Thor Holm and John Moloney at Mondello in 91
Bert Brodin at Mondello in 1990
and finally for now
Pekka Rantanen at Mondello in 1990

Fast man · 2 Feb 2006, 11:50 (Ref:1514163)

A less known groep B car: The Citroen BX 4TC:
Foto's and more info on this link: Citroen BX 4TC or here in rally version Citroen BX 4TC

Video of Audi Quattro testing on col de turinni
and one more Audi

BOY BLUNDER · 2 Feb 2006, 19:37 (Ref:1514416)

Its a shame i cant have any of those lovely Audi Quattro
s1 on my startline,bet they would still give our
boys a run for their money.

glyn parham · 2 Feb 2006, 22:20 (Ref:1514516)

Didier Auriol at Le Touquet in 1985

Francis Vincent at the same event and having problems with a Samba

glyn parham · 2 Feb 2006, 22:25 (Ref:1514520)

Current Citreon man Guy Frequelin

Walter Rhorl 1986 RAC Rally

WJM · 2 Feb 2006, 23:58 (Ref:1514561)

Quote:

Originally Posted by glyn parham

Didier Auriol at Le Touquet in 1985

Francis Vincent at the same event and having problems with a Samba

Nice photos, are they yours? I assume that is shot at a rally stage, why is that Samba bumping that Ferrari?

Fast man · 3 Feb 2006, 04:37 (Ref:1514602)

How about this one:
Opel Kadett 4s/ Vauxhall Astra 4S, Only 4 of them build using a supercharged Opel Manta 400 engine.

Picture 1
Picture 2

chunder · 3 Feb 2006, 16:50 (Ref:1514916)

This is one of the best threads we have had for a long time on here.

C'mon guys, someone somewhere must remember that Quattro thread, it was on a fan site somewhere, might have been German or Austrian and had laods of videos of rallycross Quattros. I seem to remember laods of Herbie Brieteneder stuff so may have been Austrian.

Would be good to see them again

Just how damn good does that car sound!

Right, we need some RS200 and especially Delta S4 stuff now!!

fullcircle · 3 Feb 2006, 17:13 (Ref:1514937)

http://www.audi-s2.at/Videos/VI-HA-eng.htm

Think this is the one you mean?

glyn parham · 3 Feb 2006, 21:52 (Ref:1515115)

Hi all.

RS200 of Drogmans Ypres 1986

Tabaton at Ypres

Beguin in Ypres 1984

All my own photos and I have plenty more to post if people like them.

The Ferrari photos were taken at Croix-en Ternois race track which hosted a stage of that years Division 1 event at Le Touquet. The samba has just started the stage (from the pit lane) and Vincent was coming into the hairpin at the wrong time.
The end result was this.

Glyn

**BertMk2** · 4 Feb 2006, 09:25 (Ref:1515297)

Quote:

Originally Posted by glyn parham

All my own photos and I have plenty more to post if people like them.

Yes please!

glyn parham · 4 Feb 2006, 09:54 (Ref:1515308)

Ok then, if I must.

Fraincois Chatriot at Le Touquet

Andruet in Ypres 1984

Who remembers Carlo Capone at Ypres 1984?

chunder · 4 Feb 2006, 13:02 (Ref:1515425)

He was European champion wasnt he in a west sponsored car!

glyn parham · 4 Feb 2006, 22:27 (Ref:1515668)

He was indeed Chunder, well remembered.

Glyn

glyn parham · 7 Feb 2006, 11:55 (Ref:1517199)

Some more for you all.

Jimmy Mcrae

Henri

Patrick Snijers

All taken at Ypres in 1984

glyn

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