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Old 17 Feb 2020, 01:51 (Ref:3957879)   #1
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 02:12 (Ref:3957880)   #2
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Sad news

Although that article does contain some stunning journalism.
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Globally, more than 75 per cent of all vehicles sold are left-hand-drive, while right-hand-drive countries account for the remaining 25 per cent of sales.


More seriously, it is interesting that they have now closed or sold pretty much everything in the right hand drive world.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 02:17 (Ref:3957881)   #3
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If you have previously put a Chevy bowtie on a Holden Commodore, now you won't have to bother.....

Sad the brand is being retired but it kinda hasn't been Holden for a bit now
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 03:06 (Ref:3957884)   #4
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Red Bull Chevrolet Racing Team presumably. Guess that will mean those who like to refer to Holdens competing in Supercars as Chevrolets, based on the origin of the engine block, will now have to find a new putdown.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 03:19 (Ref:3957886)   #5
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Chevrolet won't have any RHD cars to sell. General motors are leaving the Australian market.

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Old 17 Feb 2020, 03:37 (Ref:3957887)   #6
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Quelle surprise! Looks like a lot of new car showrooms are going to have to be re-purposed ...

Not sure we needed a new thread for this, IIRC there is at least one other thread discussing the Commodore disappearance that canvassed this development.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 04:50 (Ref:3957894)   #7
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Ah, no - Holden is leaving the market. General Motors will still be selling RHD vehicles converted here, according to what has come out so far.

May change of course but that is the current info.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:03 (Ref:3957896)   #8
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Ah, no - Holden is leaving the market. General Motors will still be selling RHD vehicles converted here, according to what has come out so far.
They will not be making ANY RHD vehicles anywhere, so I don't think there will be a place to sell the converted Camaros.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:18 (Ref:3957899)   #9
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They will not be making ANY RHD vehicles anywhere, so I don't think there will be a place to sell the converted Camaros.


They can sell them where they sell them now - here in Oz, converted here, same as happens now.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:27 (Ref:3957900)   #10
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They can sell them where they sell them now - here in Oz, converted here, same as happens now.
Are they not selling them in Holden dealerships?
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:38 (Ref:3957902)   #11
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Are they not selling them in Holden dealerships?
They are currently, and dealer signage can be changed fairly readlily. GM have announced that it intends to stay in the market here with its speciality vehicle range and is working with its partner (Walkinshaw) re that.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:41 (Ref:3957903)   #12
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The official statement is that the RHD Corvette is not dead but that any GM vehicles sold here in the future will be on a minimal scale compared to the present set up.
So likely just a niche market for some conversions as is the case now but not on the scale that would justify dealerships or motorsport sponsorships.
We will see but it does not look optimistic now no matter how rose-coloured your glasses are.
Looks like a case of glass half empty or glass half full of poison.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 05:53 (Ref:3957906)   #13
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Numbers definitely much smaller & maybe not all the current 56 dealers selling the converted vehicles will want to keep doing so, maybe more will.

More will no doubt come out in due course but agree completely that from the locally sold numbers alone, Motorsport feels unlikely - although the brand internationally may choose to support local Motorsport, all remains to be seen.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 06:05 (Ref:3957908)   #14
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Ah, no - Holden is leaving the market. General Motors will still be selling RHD vehicles converted here, according to what has come out so far.



May change of course but that is the current info.
More likely GM sell LHD cars to Walkinshaw post 2020. With Walkinshaw left to do the conversions, marketing, sales, warranty, etc.


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So likely just a niche market for some conversions as is the case now but not on the scale that would justify dealerships or motorsport sponsorships.
This. Unless Walkinshaw is going to pay for the Camaro homologation and hope for fan loyalty to help bring in sponsors bigger than an electrical wholesaler.

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Old 17 Feb 2020, 06:41 (Ref:3957910)   #15
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Simpler to just have a grid full of Mustangs.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 07:01 (Ref:3957911)   #16
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Nah simpler to run a grid full of race cars sans manufacturer involvement.
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Old 17 Feb 2020, 07:22 (Ref:3957915)   #17
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Awww! Where is the fun in that. We wouldn't have to endure all the forum parity debates of who gets what then.

Oh wait, thats when we get success ballast.
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Oh wait, thats when we get success ballast.
What about Team BoP in TCR?
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A one make series would seem to be the obvious answer, it was mooted previously when Ford departed the series.
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A one make series would seem to be the obvious answer, it was mooted previously when Ford departed the series.
Agreed. I would suggest using the 5.2L Alluminator crate engine (a very reasonable $34,000AUD as opposed to $150,000AUD for the Windsor with it's hundreds of hours of custom machining) to ease transition costs for Holden teams.
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The way I am reading the release, this could generate a significant windfall for DJ Walky?

I think he has delivered a remarkable facility and capability and if GM gives him enough of their cars, and the numbers for conversion work out, he could end up sell a LOT of cars.
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More likely GM sell LHD cars to Walkinshaw post 2020. With Walkinshaw left to do the conversions, marketing, sales, warranty, etc.
Possible, definitely possible. Or GM could have an arrangement with Walkinshaw as an independent importer, running marketing, sales, dealer network but with the global warranty program underpinning the operation and full GM branding / support.

That is the arrangement for example that Subaru have with Inchcape, and have done for many years. Currently Ateco look after Ram, LDV and Maserati in this way and have previously done the same for Fiat and Alfa. Audi was imported and run by Inchcape for years, the list is actually pretty extensive of brands that have been imported/distributed by independents.

We'll find out more in the months to come no doubt.
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Can't wait for the excuses then about Roland getting car advantages for his team
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