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Old 16 Dec 2003, 05:33 (Ref:812787)   #1
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Group C Jaguar

Can any one track down the contact details for a group C Jaguar out of NSW that was runing about 3 or 4 years back. I think the drivers surname was smales.
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Old 17 Dec 2003, 01:49 (Ref:813663)   #2
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Re: Group C Jaguar

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Can any one track down the contact details for a group C Jaguar out of NSW that was runing about 3 or 4 years back. I think the drivers surname was smales.
Not sure if this is related or not, but I saw an XJS Jag in a driveway recently. It was british racing green and had the number "10" on the side. Looks suspiciously like John Goss's Bathurst Jag.

This is in country Victoria, too...
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Old 17 Dec 2003, 10:37 (Ref:813902)   #3
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Garry Willmington at Wakefield might be one to talk to about Jags - I know he still has his - he may be able to fill you in on other Jags around.
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Old 17 Dec 2003, 11:53 (Ref:813990)   #4
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I noticed in AMC that they are trying to track down John Goss' Group C Jaguar XJS touring car. I was under the impression it had been coverted to Group A spec., and was the car used by Goss and Muir (Citibank colours) at Bathurst in 1986.

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I understood that the Group A Jag John Goss used at Bathurst in 1986 was a TWR shell, including a TWR build number... that car ended up back in the UK and onsold to a customer believing it was part of the regular TWR fleet...

The 1985 3rd placed Group A car of Percy/Walkinshaw was sold recently by the administrators of TWR for STG90,000.
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Old 17 Dec 2003, 23:25 (Ref:814713)   #6
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Goss Jag ex-Group C car

I remember the Citibank Goss Jaguar being portrayed as being his Group C car converted to Group A. It is also reported as such on page 77 of the “James Hardie 100 1986/7” annual.

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Old 17 Dec 2003, 23:36 (Ref:814721)   #7
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The Great Race book went to some lengths to explain the radiator cowling and numerous other bits and pieces of the Goss 1986 car were 'Group C' spec and had him in trouble with the scrutineers, however what wasnt clear was that some parts and equipment were said to have flowed from TWR Europe to help Gossy along in his private entry... which apparently included a Group A shell.

At what stage the shell was at, and how many bits had to be ratted from the Group C car to make it run is something only Mr Goss can probably answer now

You can buy a 1:24 model of the Group A car at http://www.auswidemodels.com.au/dc%201_24%20pg2.htm
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Old 18 Dec 2003, 00:05 (Ref:814738)   #8
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There were quite a few Jag XJS's around. Bob How or Howe from vic had one back in the early 80s that he club raced in Touring Car trim, then we had Gossy's, Willmingtons Grp A Version then later John Clinton's version. Reda Awadallah had one in about 88/89 which raced as a Sports Sedan, that Willmington raced a few times, not sure if this was the Willmington car modified. There was later Paul Warne's version which raced in the invitational sports car races in NSW in the late 90s, although im not sure of the history of that car.
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Old 18 Dec 2003, 00:51 (Ref:814760)   #9
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Bob How has over 200 jags of all types in chook sheds out at Pearcedale
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Those poor chooks!

Imagine them slipping over all the time on the oil slick from that fleet!

At least KFC have an excuse for the greasey food
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Old 18 Dec 2003, 04:13 (Ref:814815)   #11
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GTR,I have the other Bathurst book that was in competition to Tuckey/Berghouse/Floyds book by Barry Naismith/ David Hassall(I think). I will have a look in regards to this as I always thought it was the original jag from 1980. Gossy had a reputation for last minute car preparation and the 86 version was no different. Gossy version of the accident with Ravalgia to Pat Welsh in the pitline was classic Gossy speak!
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Old 23 Dec 2003, 23:37 (Ref:819559)   #12
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It has taken a little time but here it is:
Extract from the Bathurst 86/87 by Barry Naismith: Jaguar Rover Australia's decision not to financially support Tom Walkinshaw Racing title defence, due to the dire state of the Australian car market, left the British bred 1985 cars parked at the Burley Scots English Base. But Goss, loyal to the marque after being wooed by other teams happened to have two new, part prepared Jags of his own which he had considered running earlier in the season on the momentum of Bathurst 1985, befor hitching up again with TWR. The defender's No10 car was built at Goss's usually dormant Sydney race workshop, where the preparation was directed by brothers Peter, Michael and longtime Goss mechanic Grant O'Neil. The Goss team were on their own for 1986, so they had to modify parts locally,as well as cope with the tuning of the engine electronics. They used the experience gained from years on the Group C project, reused many parts from the 1984 TWR Goss co-operative project car and mixed in a bit of TWR information. Construction of the car began late and it only just made it to Bathurst, teething problems & all.A rebuild some trye testing and a screwing up of the power output from the 5.3 litre V12 to as high as 500hp, was all that was needed to get the 1400 kg cat moving quicker than the previous year.
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Old 27 Feb 2004, 02:25 (Ref:886943)   #13
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A little birdie tells me that the latest issue of Australian Muscle Car shows the Goss Jaguar of 1986 alive & well. Now if can they find out where Peter Janson deerstalker hat ended up........
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I believe there was a Gil Smales that use to run a white Jaguar in the Group C. Not to sure where he is these days.
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A little birdie tells me that the latest issue of Australian Muscle Car shows the Goss Jaguar of 1986 alive & well. Now if can they find out where Peter Janson deerstalker hat ended up........

Yep, got it today. There is a story and current pics. Its as it raced in good condition.
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