2012 IndyCar schedule - Page 17

mountainstar · 1 Jan 2012, 23:32 (Ref:3006285)

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Originally Posted by Mystery

Incorrect Armco installation and Armco lifting out of the ground respectively. Neither recorded as driving Dallaras.

I meant the problem you implied of a Dallara piercing Armco.

What I am saying is that it could be a problem. Armco is not indestructible. You fire an open wheel car into something at 150 mph there is going to be some sort of forces involved. It's not my opinion but from what I learned from those that deal with those issues directly when I asked about it. Take it for what it's worth.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 2 Jan 2012, 03:32 (Ref:3006315)

I remember the F1 drivers in the 1975 Spanish GP going on strike because the ARMCO barriers had not been bolted together properly.

DanicaFan · 6 Jan 2012, 17:16 (Ref:3008245)

Now it appears that Indycar may have thier season finale this year on a street course in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

I just cannot get excited about another street course, enough already. You have a perfectly good oval down there at Homestead-Miami, put the finale there, the series needs more ovals. The finale would be the weekend of September 28th-30th.

On one good note, The Milwaukee Mile may be back on this year's schedule in June.

FordCosworthPanoz · 6 Jan 2012, 17:49 (Ref:3008261)

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Now it appears that Indycar may have thier season finale this year on a street course in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

I just cannot get excited about another street course, enough already. You have a perfectly good oval down there at Homestead-Miami, put the finale there, the series needs more ovals. The finale would be the weekend of September 28th-30th.

On one good note, The Milwaukee Mile may be back on this year's schedule in June.

South Florida in Late September, you cannot script this scheduling any better. They obviously know nothing about the Tropical Hurricane Season. Its not as stupid as it would have been Late August/Early September but last year on October 1st, there was a Tropical 4 Hurricane in the Atlantic, although it did not hit Florida or Land.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 6 Jan 2012, 18:45 (Ref:3008302)

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Originally Posted by DanicaFan

Now it appears that Indycar may have thier season finale this year on a street course in Fort Lauderdale, Florida.

I just cannot get excited about another street course, enough already. You have a perfectly good oval down there at Homestead-Miami, put the finale there, the series needs more ovals. The finale would be the weekend of September 28th-30th.

On one good note, The Milwaukee Mile may be back on this year's schedule in June.

If they run it the weekend after Indy like they used to and promote it properly then hopefully it won't be the disaster it was last year.

Tim Northcutt · 6 Jan 2012, 18:56 (Ref:3008311)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

If they run it the weekend after Indy like they used to and promote it properly then hopefully it won't be the disaster it was last year.

They can't run it the weekend after Indy...That's where Detroit is on the schedule.

They are looking at June 17, if it can happen. After Texas and before Iowa.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 6 Jan 2012, 18:59 (Ref:3008313)

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Originally Posted by Tim Northcutt

They can't run it the weekend after Indy...That's where Detroit is on the schedule.

They are looking at June 17, if it can happen. After Texas and before Iowa.

Why not swap Detroit for Milwaukee?

Purist · 6 Jan 2012, 21:04 (Ref:3008380)

Detroit is a temporary course; you can't just go around swapping its date. It just doesn't work that way.

As for Homestead, it has been the season finale on a couple of occasions, and it didn't draw well enough. Also, the banking there is steep enough that there will be concerns about it in the wake of Las Vegas.

Paradise City · 6 Jan 2012, 23:29 (Ref:3008420)

The Texas race is just going to be a stand alone. That's a smart move in a sea of madness.

I've said it before, they get crowds if the race takes place in the middle of the city. They don't tend to get crowds if the crowd has to trouble themselves by going through turnstiles.

They go off and do something else. Some of the best racing took place on ovals. What I'm saying is that it is a more fundamental problem with the series than the markets alleged rejection of ovals.

JagtechOhio · 7 Jan 2012, 09:42 (Ref:3008536)

Empty grandstands is a pretty definitive allegation.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 7 Jan 2012, 18:25 (Ref:3008627)

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Originally Posted by Purist

Detroit is a temporary course; you can't just go around swapping its date. It just doesn't work that way.

As for Homestead, it has been the season finale on a couple of occasions, and it didn't draw well enough. Also, the banking there is steep enough that there will be concerns about it in the wake of Las Vegas.

I know it's temporary but are plans that far down the road, the date can't can't be changed?

As is it I personally think the rejection of ovals is in part a knee jerk reaction to the tragic events in Las Vegas.

Jacques Rabbit · 7 Jan 2012, 21:36 (Ref:3008713)

Las Vegas street race is too expensive; they want the season to end on a street course in Ft. Lauderdale in 2012 if it can, but if not then, they will aim for 2013.

Jacques Rabbit · 7 Jan 2012, 21:38 (Ref:3008714)

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Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

As is it I personally think the rejection of ovals is in part a knee jerk reaction to the tragic events in Las Vegas.

I would agree that it is, indeed, that way in part. But that will resolve itself; once they can figure out a formula for oval racing that will not lead to the potential for fatality/serious injury, that will all pass.

What won't pass is the fact no one goes to the oval races, and that Kentucky got 115,000 television viewers, leaving it's TV ratings behind the number of people who actually showed up and attended the Daytona 500 or Indy 500.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 8 Jan 2012, 01:31 (Ref:3008776)

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Originally Posted by Jacques Rabbit

I would agree that it is, indeed, that way in part. But that will resolve itself; once they can figure out a formula for oval racing that will not lead to the potential for fatality/serious injury, that will all pass.

What won't pass is the fact no one goes to the oval races, and that Kentucky got 115,000 television viewers, leaving it's TV ratings behind the number of people who actually showed up and attended the Daytona 500 or Indy 500.

They obviously need to target the market, as far as ovals go. I don't see why IndyCar doesn't go back and look at what was succesful about AOWR. It's there. There was a good balance of ovals, road courses and street races at one point in time. Then again the cars were designed to deal with the different tracks.

NaBUru38 · 8 Jan 2012, 02:37 (Ref:3008823)

I'm worried that nobody is mentioning viewing rates in canada, Latin America and elsewhere. When we had it on ESPN, I'm sure the viewership was decent this side of the river.

Purist · 8 Jan 2012, 05:52 (Ref:3008844)

The interesting thing about permanent road courses is that there really were only ever four of them on the calendar. For a long time, it was Portland, Mid Ohio, Road America, and Laguna Seca. Prior to that grouping coming about in 1984, there were brief stints at Watkins Glen, Riverside, and Mexico City in the early years of CART.

DanicaFan · 12 Jan 2012, 16:57 (Ref:3010789)

It looks like Milwaukee will be on this year's schedule. That is finally some good news for the schedule.

W.A Trichlorostyrene · 12 Jan 2012, 17:17 (Ref:3010792)

Not good news. Awesome news

jondownunder · 13 Jan 2012, 11:34 (Ref:3011114)

That would be great news indeed!

Jacques Rabbit · 13 Jan 2012, 16:34 (Ref:3011259)

I hope they can find a way to make it work. Been a lot of dicking around with that race and some continuity would be nice. Milwaukee is exactly the kind of oval Indy needs to be on, in my opinion, because it really challenges the drivers and creates real, legitimate passing.

Paulaweybridge · 13 Jan 2012, 19:52 (Ref:3011341)

Cannot believe it. I am going to the Indy 500 this May.

Done all the other classic races but not this one.

Cannot wait ...

Down F0rce · 14 Jan 2012, 00:10 (Ref:3011441)

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Originally Posted by Paulaweybridge

Cannot believe it. I am going to the Indy 500 this May.

Done all the other classic races but not this one.

Cannot wait ...

Me too! It will be my first time outside of Europe, let alone first time in the USA. Should be fun.

**bjohnsonsmith** · 15 Jan 2012, 02:29 (Ref:3011776)

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Originally Posted by Paulaweybridge

Cannot believe it. I am going to the Indy 500 this May.

Done all the other classic races but not this one.

Cannot wait ...

I was going to go but with that excuse for a race car it has really changed my mind.

NaBUru38 · 15 Jan 2012, 03:10 (Ref:3011779)

In 2015, the race is on my birthday... let me day dream a bit

Paulaweybridge · 16 Jan 2012, 08:21 (Ref:3012194)

We must meet up ...

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Originally Posted by Down F0rce

Me too! It will be my first time outside of Europe, let alone first time in the USA. Should be fun.

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