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Old 19 Oct 2007, 08:04 (Ref:2044311)   #1
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Best of the rest 2008

So McMerc and the donkeys will be 1-2 again.
But who next?
This year it has been BMW, but there are a lot of teams that could knock them off their perch.

Renault. Any team is at the front with Alonso. Just look at the change he brought to McLaren's fortunes. Back at Renault he could recover their form.

Red Bull. The car is going to be better. But are the drivers up to it?

Williams. Lots of rumours that they are pulling their finger out big style next year. In a good car Rosberg will really shine.

Honda. In 2006 they had a winning car. They have employed a lot of good people and thrown lots of money at repeating this in 2008. Button will get the best out of TC being banned.

So what do you reckon the pecking order will be?
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 08:49 (Ref:2044341)   #2
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Based on this year's performances, I'd say BMW will still be the leading team after McLaren and Ferrari, but it all depends on how good the teams are at adapting their cars (and how good the drivers are at adapting) to life without traction control. I'd like to see Honda give Button a car that will let him show how good he is without the help of electronic gadgets as well, because it doesn't matter how good he is, if the car is like this year's he won't get any results of note.

The thing I would like to see the most - whether it'll happen or not remains to be seen - is the other teams closing the gap to the top two to the point where they can realistically win races on a regular basis.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 09:04 (Ref:2044348)   #3
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Ferrari and McLaren will set the pace one again.

As for challengers, I genuinely expect BMW to be even nearer the front next year - it'll just be a case of can their current drivers make the most of it and get their first wins?

Renault will also be more competitive, Alonso and Heikki will make a damn strong line up - the equal of any other pairing in on the entry (should Alonso actually move )

Red Bull will make further strides, with Williams it all depends whether they develop this years chassis which has shown good potential or do a new car altogether.

Can't see anyone else doing much of note.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 09:19 (Ref:2044356)   #4
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...it'll just be a case of can their current drivers make the most of it and get their first wins?
Rather Chunterer, can BMW make its conceptual leap forward next season.
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Textbook. I have much confidence they can.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 09:59 (Ref:2044379)   #5
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All of the top 3 challenging for race wins, with solid finishes and occasional podiums for Renault and Williams.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 17:31 (Ref:2044769)   #6
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I expect BMW to make a good stride next season. Possible challengers in my book. They look sure to be best of the rest, well ahead of Renault probably.

McLaren, I am unsure, they are up and down. They are due to make a bad car next season according to their bi-yearly plan.

Ferrari will be the team to beat for me. Especially if Brawn returns.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 20:23 (Ref:2044900)   #7
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BMW will be challenging for wins next season. This year was about getting into third or fourth, but Munich will now want a win. Fingers crossed for Heidfeld in 2008, he's more than bloody deserving of one.
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Old 19 Oct 2007, 21:11 (Ref:2044938)   #8
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I'm actually more excited by the drivers (rather than teams) coming through. It could be a classic few years of F1 ahead if they all get into good teams - Rosberg, Hamilton, Kovi, Suttil, Vettel and established 'vets' like Alonso and Kimi. Get these guys into the cars mentioned above and there'll be fireworks I tells ya!!
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Old 20 Oct 2007, 01:38 (Ref:2045092)   #9
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Theoretically BMW should be making the next step to getting wins. It doesn't always work that way however.
I think they need a really top quality driver to build a team around. Like Renault with Alonso. Can either Nick or Robert step up that is the question.
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Old 20 Oct 2007, 03:55 (Ref:2045131)   #10
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Theoretically BMW should be making the next step to getting wins. It doesn't always work that way however.
As you say, doesn't always work like that, look at Honda in 2005!

I expect Renault to be closer next year. I'm sure their biggest problem this season was the tyre's after such a close (the closest) relationship with Michelin, and i'm convinced that the car and tyre combination will be better in 2008.
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Old 20 Oct 2007, 06:28 (Ref:2045167)   #11
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I'll probably be more interested to see who falls back. I honestly expected BMW to fall back this year, but they did quite the opposite and actually did what they said they would towards the end of '06. I'm not expecting much of Honda and Toyota. Honda might have something, but theyve basically said this years car is so bad, they have to go all new again for next year. They'll have to make sure they dont repeat the same mistakes as they did this year. Renault-Williams-Red Bull have all been making noises of getting towards the front, or getting back there for 2 of them. I'll be surprised if they all stay around the same competitiveness next year, but if they all cut down the current gap to the leaders from about 1-1.5s a lap to 0.5-1s a lap it wont exactly be something to complain about.
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Old 20 Oct 2007, 09:11 (Ref:2045221)   #12
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If Alonso joins Renault they should leapfrog BMW into third. Heidfeld has been solid and Kubica has shown potential, but I'm not convinced by either of them, as drivers who can really maximise a car. It's hard to tell as Nick has had a fairly easy run to a lot of his points this year, but I think there are better drivers out there.
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