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Old 30 Jul 2019, 14:03 (Ref:3920409)   #276
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So I found this series
https://youtu.be/qNnkm8aFTWU

Could someone explain me in english what are the prototype categories supposed to be? There's P1 (with Ginetta G57 in it among other things I don't recognize) and P2 and P3 and P4, in addition to usual stock GT3 and GT4? Stuff in P1is interesting looking visually but I'd only be interested to follow if it's not a bop class, but it's hard to tell when the info's all in portuguese

Btw what a fire of epic proportions
https://youtu.be/zrgDFRZ5a38
That is the Brazilian Endurance Championship. The prototype classes goes as this:

P1

– FIA LMP3 prototypes
Min. weight = 940kg; Fuel tank = 105L
– Ginetta G57 e G58 LMP3 with 6.2L engines
Min. weight = 940kg; Fuel tank = 105L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 6001cm³ up to 7000cm³
Min. weight = 900kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 5001cm³ up to 6000cm³
Min. weight = 860kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 3801cm³ up to 5000cm³
Min. weight = 820kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 2501cm³ up to 3800cm³
Min. weight = 730kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated up to 2500cm³
Min. weight = 680kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction over 2401cm³ up to 4200cm³
Min. weight = 900kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction from 2001cm³ up to 2400cm³ multi-valve
Min. weight = 800kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 2000cm³ multi-valve
Min. weight = 760kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 2100cm³ 8 valves
Min. weight = 700kg; Fuel tank = 115L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 1350cm³ equipped with motorbikes engine/gearbox
Min. weight = 520kg; Fuel tank = 80L

P2

– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 6301 cm3 up to 7000 cm3
Min. weight = 900kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 5001 cm3 up to 6300 cm3
Min. weight = 880kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 4001 cm3 up to 5000 cm3
Min. weight = 800kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 3601 cm3 up to 4000 cm3
Min. weight = 750kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated over 2501 cm3 up to 3600 cm3
Min. weight = 730kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - naturally aspirated up to 2500 cm3
Min. weight = 680kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction over 2401 cm3 up to 4200 cm3
Min. weight = 900kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction from 2101 cm3 up to 2400 cm3 multi-valve
Min. weight = 780kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 2100 cm3 multi-valve
Min. weight = 740kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 2100 cm3 8 valves
Min. weight = 700kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes - forced induction up to 1350 cm3 equipped with motorbikes engine/gearbox
Min. weight = 520kg; Fuel tank = 80L

P3

– Sport-prototypes – up to 1507 cm3 equipped with motorbikes engine/gearbox
Min. weight = 480kg; Fuel tank = 80L
– Sport-prototypes – up to 2400 cm3 multi-valve
Min. weight = 680kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes – up to 2100 cm3 multi-valve
Min. weight = 650kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes – up to 2200 cm3 8 valves 4 cylinders
Min. weight = 620kg; Fuel tank = 100L

P4

– Sport-prototypes – up to 2100 cm3 8 valves 4 cylinders
Min. weight = 630kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes – up to 2400 cm3 8 valves 4 cylinders with imported gearbox
Min. weight = 645kg; Fuel tank = 100L
– Sport-prototypes – up to 2100 cm3 8 valves 4 cylinders with imported gearbox and original intake with one butterfly valve of free diameter
Min. weight = 620kg; Fuel tank = 100L


Banned engines:
Judd Power: HK V8 LMP2, JUDD KV (ZYTEK) V8 F3000, JUDD DB3.0, JUDD DB3.4, JUDD DB4.0, JUDD GV 4.0, JUDD GV 4.2, JUDD GV 5.0, JUDD GV 5.5;
Zytek;
Acura HPD AR35TT;
Gibson Technology: GK428 LM P2, GL458 LM P1;
AER: SR20, P03, P07, P14, P25, P32, P41, P60B, P63, P65, P91 e P91P;
Mecachrome V634P1 LM P1;
Toyota TS050 Hybrid LM P1.
Forced induction over 4200 cm3.
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Barwell Motorsport’s Lamborghini squad won a long battle with Herberth Motorsport’s #91 Porsche to take the overall win at the 24H Barcelona over the weekend

http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/0...barcelona.html

I'm surprised by the excellent grid. Circuit racing in Spain is rather poor.
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Old 3 Oct 2019, 20:41 (Ref:3931782)   #278
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http://www.dailysportscar.com/2019/1...k-notes-2.html


Britcar to provisionally support 2 WEC rounds next year, Spa and Silverstone.


So from complaining as a spectator about the lack of support race action and ticket prices at Silverstone I may end up competing at the weekends...


They must have been literally reading my thoughts!
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Old 3 Oct 2019, 20:49 (Ref:3931783)   #279
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The DMV GTC will be the supportseries from the DTM 2020.
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We have reworked Lola B12/80 LMP2 on pole for Thunderhill 25 Hours, interesting
https://nasaspeed.news/race-coverage...k-performance/

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"Last Lola in existence"... no not really, even now there are Lolas racing elsewhere in United States

The pre-grid chat has been interesting though, the fuel mileage differences between prototypes and some of those GTs seem insane
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Admirable to have started the race on normal terms and not use nanny-safetycar like all the big series would have done on conditions as these, this is how real racing works... especially since going of the track essentially means going to mud

Lola easily leads from the first LMP3 and open tops after 3 laps
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Had never noticed how steep some of these corners are



Here's live timing but it isn't very good, some occasional errors and it doesn't tell the car names or pit numbers. Use entry list for further details
https://racehero.io/events/nasa-norc...underhill-2019
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets...3jF5aK/pubhtml

Been pretty interesting so far
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We have reworked Lola B12/80 LMP2 on pole for Thunderhill 25 Hours, interesting
https://nasaspeed.news/race-coverage...k-performance/

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Sweet, i forgot that was this weekend. Great to have a video stream as well.
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Yes I think the stream's much better this year than usually when I've looked into this event, although some sound issues are still present.

The weather's cleared pretty nicely. I do wish I could see the number of pit stops somewhere as following the lead order is difficult without it.

Pescarolo 02 in the 26th position, I'm not sure if I've ever actually even seen that thing raced before
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Fuel pump issue and long pitstops for the Lola, far off the pace now... at least it doesn't have the old exploding Mazda/AERs powering it...

Somehow I wouldn't be surprised if Flying Lizards won this again in the end, the Radicals and Pragas tend to have fragility factor and LMP3s have already been off the road

"Norma's Last Chance" is a great name for a team btw lol
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ESR cars still at lead 16 hours in, we have Radical SR RSX leading LMP3 Oak by 5 laps. Then Praga R1 another 12 laps (old school or what ) back from that P3 car. First non-prototype is 22 laps off from lead
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Did not have a chance to finish following the race after unforeseen IRL dramas, but looking at the results I'm mighty impressed by the prototypes lasting to the finish and in such dominant fashion.

Next year, hope we get more exotics like the Lola, but even if not it's so fun event compared to much else there is in offer, and it's nice to see the niche tech prototypes doing well as well.

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Who has some proper information about Brazilian Endurance Championship and, especially, P1 and P2 tech. I've read Tarso Marques has built a P2 car and it looks interesting. Which engine does he use? Is the chassis completely new or does it use some bits of already existing Ps?
https://racemotor.com.br/2020/04/23/...urance-brasil/
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Here's an article on the Metalmore AJR which also races in that series:
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...o-jlm-ajr.html

I just skimmed the article, but the chassis seems to be a bespoke design rather than a re-use of a European chassis.
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THE TMC 01 prototype of Tarso Marques

Hi, I'm the publisher of Racemotor website from Brasil, where the news about the Tarso Marques TMC 01 prototype were first published. Now we have a first real image of it - it is a formula tub (He insisted not to confirm which until now) with a V6 turbo powerplant. Just to clarify, P1 and P2 classes at Império Endurance Brasil has nothing to do with ACO/IMSA rules, hence the central driving position Can-Am style machine allowed to be part of.



There is the link to the article: https://racemotor.com.br/2020/05/07/...urance-brasil/
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Here's an article on the Metalmore AJR which also races in that series:
http://www.dailysportscar.com/2017/0...o-jlm-ajr.html

Wow. Just wow. That's the way LMP3 should look like. Superb machinery!
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The official website is imperioendurancebrasil.com.

* P1: LMP3, Ginetta G57 / G58, sport prototypes up to 7.0L.
* P2: sport prototypes up to 7.0L.
* P3: sport prototypes up to 2.4L.
* P4: sport prototypes up to 2.4L.

* GT3: FIA GT3.
* GT3 Light: old FIA GT cars, JL 09 (Stock Car).
* GT4: FIA GT4, JL 09 (Stock Car), Ferrari Challenge, TCR, Trofeo Fiat Linea.

This season was scheduled to air on cable TV channel SporTV.
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A bit more on that Tarso Marques car. It's a runner.

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Hi there!

About the Endurance Brasil series, I can help you guys with some information, but since there is a lot to cover I started a dedicated thread to the series.

As was already posted, the championship has 8 classes, evenly split between prototypes and GTs/Touring Cars, however the regulations on the site have been updated during 2019, and are available at the CBA site:

https://www.cba.org.br/campeonato/downloads/86/416/2019

The classes are as follows:

P1: Brazilian built prototypes + LMP3 cars + Ginetta G57 P2. Engines are limited to 7.000 cm³ NA or 4.200 cm³ turbo/supercharger.

P2: Brazilian built prototypes of older build, with the same engine specifications as P1, but different weight and fuel capacity limits. The car Tarso Marques built was intended for P2, however as it is a new design it's going to be competing at P1.

P3: Prototyes with engines up to 2.400 cm³ NA engines.

P4: Prototypes with engines up to 2.100 cm³ NA engines, with a mandatory low cost Pirelli tyre. For 2020 this class will be merged with P3 due to a lack of interest in the last years

GT3: GT3 Homologated cars. Until 2019 the GT3 cars were limited only by weight/fuel cell capacity, however seems 2020 onwards the FIA BoP will be mandatory

GT3 Light: older GT3 cars + Brazilian Stock Cars

GT4: FIA GT4 cars with FIA intake restrictors + a few locally prepared GTs / Touring Cars.

GT4 Light: FIA TCR, GT3 cars built prior to 2008 and GTs/Touring Cars from various one make series from Brazil, lite the Trofeo Linea, Maserati Trofeo, Mercedes CLA AMG Cup, among others
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Who has some proper information about Brazilian Endurance Championship and, especially, P1 and P2 tech. I've read Tarso Marques has built a P2 car and it looks interesting. Which engine does he use? Is the chassis completely new or does it use some bits of already existing Ps?
https://racemotor.com.br/2020/04/23/...urance-brasil/
Can help with that

Starting with the championship, the Endurance Brasil was formed in 2014 on the basis of the regional endurance championship of Brazil's southernmost state, Rio Grande do Sul.

Currently, as stated above, 8 car classes compete, evenly split between Prototypes and GTs/Touring Cars.

Specifically about the P1 and P2 classes, they are as follows:

P1: class for Brazilian built prototypes + LMP3 + Ginetta G57 P2. Engines are limited to 7.000 cm³ if naturally aspirated, or 4.200 cm³ if turbo / supercharger. The only limitations are the following:

Weight/Fuel capacity, based on engine displacement ant if it's NA or turbo
Number of tyres allocated per racing weekend
FIA Annex J safety requirements
More exotic engines like those used on LMP1L or LMP2, or other top echelon classes are also forbidden, to avoid cost to skyrocket

Other than that, design is completely free, both aerodynamically and chassis wise. Tyres also are of free choice, with teams currently using either Yokohama or Pirelli rubber. LMP3 cars are free from the intake restrictos used on the ACO series.

P2 has overall the same limitations in engine displacement, with only slightly different specifications for the pairing weight/fuel capacity. This class is sort of a grandfathering class, for older prototypes that cannot keep up with current machinery. For this reason, the car Tarso Marques built will not be permited in the P2 class, and will compete in P1
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https://www.sportsprototypecup.com/
https://www.autosport.com/national/n...port-race-slot

"The UK Sports Prototype Cup will feature ‘races within the race’ . Rather than trying to balance the performance of a variety of different cars, any class of more than eight cars will be promoted as its own event with the Cup. The Cup will be launched with two such categories, The Revolution UK Trophy and the Dunlop Radical SR3 Trophy."

-- The UK-based Sports Prototype Cup was launched last year and features classes for the new Revolution A-One machine, as well as for Radical SR3s and an Open division at selected events for other prototypes."


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Thunderhill 25 cancelled for 2020, shame but not overly surprising
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