NZ - F5000 races 2004

[Andrew Kitson]

Have any of our Kiwi friends (Racingfxgt?) photos taken at the recent F5000 races?
I was speaking to winner Mike Wrigley and Frank/Judy Lyons at the historic show yesterday - 22 F5000 cars on the grid!
That is more than in most of the races here in Europe in the good old days of the Formula.

[allenbrown]

Does anyone have an entry list?

Allen

[David McKinney]

You could start here
http://www.car.co.nz/race.asp?articleid=2057

[allenbrown]

Thanks David. I've reproduced the results in the form I've used elsewhere:

Tasman Cup Revival Series Race
Teretonga Park, 14 February 2004
1 Mike Wrigley, Lola T332 [T330 HU23(B)], ? laps,
2 Murray Sinclair, Lola T332 [HU28], ? laps,
3 Ian Clements, Lola T332 [T330 HU12-3], ? laps,
4 Stan Redmond, McRae GM1 [009], ? laps,
5 David Abbott, Lola T430 [HU1], ? laps,
6 Tony Roberts, Talon MR1, ? laps,
7 Aaron Lewis, Elfin MR8A-C [8772], ? laps,
8 John Mann, Lola T332 ['2002-MS'], ? laps,
9 Phil Mauger, Begg [018], ? laps,
10 Steve Ward, Lola T142, ? laps,
11 Poul Christie, Lola, ? laps,
12 Roger Williams, McRae GM1 [002], 2 laps,
13 Judy Lyons, McLaren M18, 1 laps,
14 Lindsay O'Donnell, Begg FM5 [2], 0 laps,
UNKP Frank Lyons, Lola T332 ["HU42"], Unknown (practiced)
UNKP Stuart Lush, McRae GM1 [015], Unknown (practiced)

I know most of the cars well but Tony Robert's Talon, Steve Ward's Lola T142 and 'Poul' Christie's Lola are all news. Can anyone tell me anything about those three?

[For those curious about the notation on some of the Lolas, Wrigley's car is the second instance of T330 HU23 rebuilt on a T332 tub; Clements' T332 began life as T330 HU12 but has had three tubs, the latest being a T332; Mann's is a car effectively built from scratch by Mike Sheehan in 2002 and Frank Lyons is a T332 built using a Lola-supplied T332 tub plus parts of T330 HU6 but wearing the HU42 chassis plate.]

Thanks

Allen

[Amonfan]

Aaron Lewis's car is the car that raced in Can Am spec and the car that Max Stewart ran into on that fateful day in March, 1977. I believe that the NZ races would have been the first time ever that that car has raced as a F5000 since that accident, as it was converted to Can Am after the 77 crash.

Im pretty sure the Talon is a sister car i believe to the one Amon raced in the Kiwi Races of 75. It was brought from Texas, in around 2002 i think.

[David McKinney]

Originally posted by allenbrown
I know most of the cars well but Tony Robert's Talon, Steve Ward's Lola T142 and 'Poul' Christie's Lola are all news. Can anyone tell me anything about those three?

Only that the Talon is ostensibly an MR1A
Christie has had his Lola T190 for a few years
Can't help with any more detail sorry

BTW, is that Mike Sheehan or Mark Sheehan?

[allenbrown]

Thanks chaps

Good to know it's a T190 - and thanks for the origins of that Talon.

Sheehan is 'Michael' - I was abbreviating again.

Allen

[allenbrown]

Can anyone add entry numbers? I can see Lola T332s wearing numbers 15, 30, 32, etc on the warbirds site but I'm not really sure who's who.

See here: http://www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com/g3.htm

Allen

[Amonfan]

Allen, hope this helps

1 TONY ROBERTS TALON MR1
2 ROGER WILLIAMS MCRAE GM1
3 DAVID ABBOTT LOLA T430
6 STEVE WARD LOLA T142
8 SHANE WINDELBURN LOLA T400
10 SHANE STEWART LOLA T430
11 AARON LEWIS ELFIN MR8
14 MURRAY SINCLAIR LOLA T332
15 STAN REDMOND LOLA T332
19 PHILIP MAUGER BEGG 018
21 LINDSAY O'DONNELL BEGG FM5
22 STUART LUSH McRAE GM1
23 JOHN MANN LOLA T332
26 BOB HARBORROW LOLA T192
30 IAN CLEMENTS LOLA T332
47 POUL CHRISTIE LOLA T190
55 JUDY LYONS MCLAREN M18
63 ANDREW ROBSON LOLA T332
95 FRANK LYONS LOLA T332
97 MIKE WRIGLEY LOLA T330

Note Robson and Harborrow only did the Oz round.

[racing fxgt]

Hi Andrew
Sorry no photo’s from the early rounds , but on Saturday the 28th of March at Pukekohe the Historic Racing Club is running the next round of the Tran Tasman F5000,and on the Sunday, I’m racing with Auckland Car Club and they are running two races for F5000 on our race day, so should be a really good weekend, should have a few photo’s to upload.

[Armco Bender]

That should be good day out,be worth the price of admission to see the Begg 018 and the GM1 again.
Last time I saw the 018 at Pukekohe Jim Murdoch was chasing down Warwick Brown in the rain in '75.

[Just Do It!]

The Lush car is very classy indeed and a credit to Stuart.

These cars are fragile though. Somewhere in Auckland, I believe their is Lola remnants - only one of four in the world or such??

[Steve Beale]

I was fortunate enough to travel down to Ruapuna near Christchurch for the first of the F5000 races in the South Island. I cannot remember seeing so many magificent cars of this type in one place since the glory days back in the late 60s and early 70s. It was a great shame that the event was spoilt by the weather and a number of the cars did not venture out due to a lack of rain tyres.
I will attempt attach this picture that I took. Hope it works as it is my first effort.

[amitch]

Hi

Here's one from teretonga.
I have been to all 4 races so far and will cover the last event as well.
If anyone is interested, I can put some more on my web site.




10 cars from the field of 13 F-5000's. 3 didn't start.

Alex
Www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com

[allenbrown]

Hi Alex

Do you have pictures from Sandown?

Allen

[Andrew Kitson]

Steve / Alex, welcome to ten-tenths! Thanks for your response. Great photo Alex!
According to Mike Wrigley, driver of the dark red Lola at the front of the photo above - the NZ F5000 runners have their cars set to run to 9000rpm plus, whereas Mike and Frank from the UK were only using 7500. Any ideas on this anyone?

[Amonfan]

Andrew, a couple of Aussie guys told me at Sandown that the Kiwi guys run the newer 350 chev heads etc, not exactly sure for the reason, the guy who was telling me was a hard charging Formula Atalntic/2 driver who was snapping at the heals of many of these guys, lol.

Allen, here is a link to the Sandown meet regarding pics

http://www.sdpics.com/cgi-bin/store/...rts_and_Racing

Curt

[Steve Holmes]

Hi guys, this is my first post on this site. Just stumbled accross it while researching. I really enjoyed the British racing saloon pics. I'll have to post some of the NZ variants.

I was at the Ruapuna meeting, and the entry was incredible. Also, a point worth noting is that the cars were allowed to run without mufflers unlike the other tracks around NZ. Pity about the weather. Hopefully this link works. This should clear up many of the questions regarding chassis numbers: http://www.oldracingcars.com/default.htm

I've just started a two part story on the F5000 series in NZ for New Zealand Classic Car mag which I write for. Terry Marshall, who I consider to be one of the best New Zealand photographers ever, has sent me about 30 pics for it covering the series from start to finish.

[Steve Holmes]

oops, nearly forgot. Here is a link to see some of Terry Marshalls pics from the Ruapuna meeting: http://www.car.co.nz/race.asp?articleid=1972

And here is a link for some of his old racing pics:
http://www.car.co.nz/race.asp?articleid=1460

Cheers

[Steve Beale]

I'll have another go with the picture. First image was too large. Picture shows Ian Clements Lola T332 leading Stuart Lush in his McRae GM1. Frank Lyons follows in his T332.

[amitch]

Hi

Here are some photos from the series so far. More can be found on the web site.

Begg FM2


Lola T400


Lola T332


Start at Sandown




Lola T430


Lola T430


Elfin MR8


Also, if a DVD or tape was avalible on around 5 of these cars, including incar footage, sounds race footage etc, would any one be keen to get one?

Alex
www.warbirdsovernewzealand.com

[Andrew Kitson]

Fantastic pictures. Thanks guys.

[allenbrown]

Originally posted by Steve Holmes
Hi guys, this is my first post on this site.

Welcome!

Originally posted by Steve Holmes
This should clear up many of the questions regarding chassis numbers: http://www.oldracingcars.com/default.htm

You shouldn't believe any of the rubbish on that web site - that bloke doesn't have a clue.

OK, I'll fess up - that's my web site.

Allen

[Steve Holmes]

Thanks Allen, great site. Its been really useful. If you like I could gather up a little info on some of the New Zealand built cars chassis numbers, such as the Beggs, and try and fill in some gaps for you?

I'll be covering most of the cars currently residing in NZ in my stories and tracing their racing and owner history, so should be able to provide you a bit of feedback.

I saw the ex Redman Boraxo t430 in Chuck Haines basement about 3 years ago. I wish I could have afforded it at the time. Its good to see a rare car like that back on the track