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16 Jun 2018, 07:59 (Ref:3829829)
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Let someone else take the hit on the depreciation 
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16 Jun 2018, 13:22 (Ref:3829899)
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Can we afford another series.
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17 Jun 2018, 01:17 (Ref:3830734)
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Originally Posted by Sandgroper
Can we afford another series.
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No, but it won’t stop the dreamers...
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17 Jun 2018, 10:34 (Ref:3831056)
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Originally Posted by Sandgroper
Can we afford another series.
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We can't afford all the series we have now. But that hasn't stopped them getting approved to be on the grid, why not allow another one?
At least this one is something different
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18 Jun 2018, 02:27 (Ref:3831523)
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Originally Posted by Umai Naa
They're apparently fairly cheap to run. Sure, they're expensive to buy upfront, but they hold their value pretty well.
A lot of smaller teams are running them with crews of 2 or 3. No ongoing development costs, as that's done year on year by the constructor.
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Can't say I'm particularly interested in the TCR cars themselves, but sure we can all see that the text I've quoted is an excellent thing that many championships should be striving for?
Imagine if we could say the same thing for Supercars??
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18 Jun 2018, 02:35 (Ref:3831525)
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Slow cars are cheap to maintain.
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18 Jun 2018, 06:39 (Ref:3831549)
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Originally Posted by Mixer
Slow cars are cheap to maintain.
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Until they get scratched, and need to be air freighted back to the motherland for repair. Ala Audi R8...
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18 Jun 2018, 07:00 (Ref:3831553)
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Seen a few being straightened on a chassis jig you'd find at your average panel shop...
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18 Jun 2018, 09:25 (Ref:3831582)
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Originally Posted by GTRMagic
Until they get scratched, and need to be air freighted back to the motherland for repair. Ala Audi R8...
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Happens far less these days and you’re talking about a GT car with a BIG scratch. TCR should be an easier fix as much closer to a production shell then a GT3 has evolved to. If it’s a VAG car then MPC will have that covered. Audi know how good they are for fixing bent cars.
TCR is not a bad thing. Simple cars, low running costs. No need for 100k engines or a garage full of people ....TCR championships all over the world you can run in if the heart desires. Can’t see it picking up big time in Australia mainly because the cars won’t really appeal. It’ll pick up some interest though from those who think GT and Aussie Supercars are expensive.
TCR is the GT3 for touring cars. It’s not going anywhere for at least the next decade at least not in Europe anyway.
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18 Jun 2018, 10:21 (Ref:3831586)
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Originally Posted by rich07
Happens far less these days and you’re talking about a GT car with a BIG scratch. TCR should be an easier fix as much closer to a production shell then a GT3 has evolved to. If it’s a VAG car then MPC will have that covered. Audi know how good they are for fixing bent cars.
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Be interested to see how much VW wants for a new shell when inevitably it is required, and how well your team of 3 people can re-shell a car like this...
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18 Jun 2018, 10:49 (Ref:3831595)
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Follow Stian Paulsen on YouTube.
Races in the TCR Europe series. Does all the work himself between race meetings, tows it behind his van in an enclosed trailer, and hired a couple of weekend warriors to crew it at the track. Top 5 runner, and a true privateer.
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18 Jun 2018, 16:06 (Ref:3831665)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Umai Naa
Follow Stian Paulsen on YouTube.
Races in the TCR Europe series. Does all the work himself between race meetings, tows it behind his van in an enclosed trailer, and hired a couple of weekend warriors to crew it at the track. Top 5 runner, and a true privateer.
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Kind of old school, 60s-70s-like vibes, eh?
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19 Jun 2018, 08:00 (Ref:3831809)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Umai Naa
Follow Stian Paulsen on YouTube.
Races in the TCR Europe series. Does all the work himself between race meetings, tows it behind his van in an enclosed trailer, and hired a couple of weekend warriors to crew it at the track. Top 5 runner, and a true privateer.
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Great to see some reality check in this forum for all the fear mongering.
Surely a new diverse category can be a good thing rather than another tier of the same v8 powered common chassis series?
Understand that there is questions around Australia's ability to sustain high numbers of categories - however atleast this is an internationally proven category and has manufacturer interest already.
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19 Jun 2018, 09:23 (Ref:3831822)
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The only reality check is that a guy with 3 crew and a trailer can run in the top 5 doesn't say much for the professionalism and competitiveness of the series at all. It's just like GT3 but slower and more boring.
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19 Jun 2018, 09:49 (Ref:3831831)
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He's running up against factory-assisted teams, such as WRT who won the Bathurst 12hr this year. I'm guessing they also tow their fleet of cars behind high-milage vans, and sleep in half-day rate motels.
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