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Old 10 Feb 2019, 10:18 (Ref:3882921)   #31
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Yes I think the racing should be improved first. We can start by reducing downforce so we don't need anymore DRS
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 10:22 (Ref:3882922)   #32
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Yup.

Well that's solved that conundrum. What shall we talk about now?
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 11:56 (Ref:3882935)   #33
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What about a salary cap on teams as a whole? Let them sort out their own priorities vis-à-vis drivers, engineers, mechanics, paper shufflers, etc. Doubtless impractical and unenforceable.
on a purely basic level i suspect there’d be gdpr (european data protection) issues around that one nowadays..?
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 12:28 (Ref:3882940)   #34
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Of course they are too big today. Otherwise there would be new teams joining F1.
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 18:11 (Ref:3883019)   #35
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Well lets see what happens this year, several teams are not in the best financial conditions and others are now little more than junior training teams so do not expect anything different this year to last years mercedes v ferrari fight with everyone else picking up scraps.
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 18:13 (Ref:3883021)   #36
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Would anybody really advocate that we go back to the days when teams of a couple of dozen people were the norm and at the end of the season six or seven mechanics were laid off?An extreme example perhaps,but in line with the question posed.
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 21:54 (Ref:3883059)   #37
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Will someone please define " good racing".
I suspect that if you surveyed a 1000 hardcore F1 enthusiasts you would come up with a 1000 different answers.
And if you then surveyed a 1000 casual fans you would only get 50 respondents, all different, and mostly incompatible with the wants of the hard core fans.
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Old 10 Feb 2019, 22:33 (Ref:3883067)   #38
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Perhaps a limit on the number of "back garage" personnel by that I mean the folks that sit at laptops monitoring all the cars functions. Not the "hands on car" mechanics/engineers.

If that means also imposing a limit on the amount of real time telemetery then so be it, I'm sure all the other measurements could be recorded onto a SSD and data dumped on returning back to the pits. That would then be uploaded back to base where those engineers would now be based and could review the data.
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Telemetry banning would help. It would also give the driver more technical input knowing he would have to work out a problem himself
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on a purely basic level i suspect there’d be gdpr (european data protection) issues around that one nowadays..?
I am not a GDPR expert, but data enterprise data is my day job and that includes impacts of GDPR even though I am US based. I don’t think there is anything in GDPR that would prevent a salary cap system. GDPR creates a ton of hoops to jump through (lots of extra cost), but in the end business goes on.

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Well lets see what happens this year, several teams are not in the best financial conditions and others are now little more than junior training teams so do not expect anything different this year to last years mercedes v ferrari fight with everyone else picking up scraps.
Interesting.

Others have expressed the opinion that the the entire grid is financially sound.
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Complete lack of sponsorship on most cars would say otherwise.
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Ok I know I'm banging a drum that nobody wants to hear, but surely the question is "why are the teams so big?".

The answer is simple: Complexity. Make the vehicles less technically challenging and the teams won't need all those people. Simples.

Oh and as to the relevance of the current power units etc. I believe we've discovered that young people have no interest in the sport as a general rule so why try to pander to them?
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Old 11 Feb 2019, 10:41 (Ref:3883198)   #44
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The short answer is that the teams are so big because they feel a need to be that size.The rules have become so prescriptive that there are no easily found advantages and armies of people are seeking tiny gains in every aspect of the cars.The greater the number of people looking,the better the chance that a small gain may be identified.The increasingly sophisticated engineering requires yet more by way of assembly jigs,all of which have to be manufactured and inspected prior to use and then components must undergo an amount of durability testing because of the penalties for swapping major components.All of these aspects of building and running cars are carried out by humans.


Its a bit too late now to remove some of the restrictions and hope the creative minds can devise ways to create faster cars as the mindset has changed from innovating to refining ideas,many of which originate with the opposition.The other aspect of this change is that team management is now a process of meetings and committees rather than the proprietor sticking his head round the workshop door and saying "I've got an idea!".
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Complete lack of sponsorship on most cars would say otherwise.
Sure, but those were the words of an ex-F1 team boss.

There are no Manors or HRTs on the grid.

All teams are either manufacturer owned or aligned to a manufacturer or have profitable parent companies.
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