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Old 20 Jan 2019, 04:51 (Ref:3877250)   #16
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If it doesn't go on display in the museum you might raise red flags, but there are clearly other cars overseas. I agree this is possible but fairly unlikely. With teams making money selling cars to collectors it would be too easy for one to go OS​ if someone really wanted to.

You would be right in offering the assertion though that Penske have done some special stuff they would have known they were not supposed to in the past.

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Old 20 Jan 2019, 04:53 (Ref:3877251)   #17
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They can't do anything too crazy.

The scrutineers still use body templates...
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Old 20 Jan 2019, 22:37 (Ref:3877407)   #18
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Does anyone remember they got busted soon after the sale, or before the finalisation of the sale, putting a car into a container to head over??

I think they're trying to play a straight bat and have management give them the thumbs up to say that the car can leave the country and not face the likes of a Roland tantrum about it....

Let's face it, there's nothing to stop the likes of T8, Penske and WAU of building one of these chassis in an overseas location and no one finding out about it. I'm sure a fabricator wouldn't mind an all expenses paid holiday o/s for a couple of weeks to weld up a chassis...
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Old 20 Jan 2019, 23:36 (Ref:3877421)   #19
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Apart from putting cars on shaker rigs and into wind tunnels, what else can they do?

The cars are all near enough to identical now, that anything out of the ordinary is going to stick out like a sore thumb.
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Old 21 Jan 2019, 01:03 (Ref:3877432)   #20
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Apart from putting cars on shaker rigs and into wind tunnels, what else can they do?
They could potentially come up with a demon tweak in the shocks which could make all the difference I guess...
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Old 21 Jan 2019, 05:35 (Ref:3877445)   #21
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Very interesting discussion. Didn't BJR only just sell a cotf to some pom? I guess optics matter. No one is worried about BJRs overseas facilities/capabilities lol.
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Old 21 Jan 2019, 05:52 (Ref:3877446)   #22
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The car is now deregistered.

Will never race here, or anywhere else again.

That's the rule REC owners signed up for.
Deregistered with who? Cams? Supercars? I've seen plenty of old Supercars over in NZ racing, they would have been deregistered with Supercars, no? What about the one P Morris took to the Nurburgring 24 hour race? Just cos it's deregistered with Supercars / Cams doesn't mean it won't, or can't, race again. Maybe for sentimental reasons it won't race again, but legally / technically it can race again.
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Old 21 Jan 2019, 06:07 (Ref:3877447)   #23
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Not my rules.

If they're deregistered, they can't participate in a sanctioned Supercars event.

It's only the COTF chassis that are of concern, as they're the current spec. The IP to them belongs to Supercars, hence why they all have their own individual Supercars-issued chassis number.
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Old 21 Jan 2019, 10:40 (Ref:3877480)   #24
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Not my rules.

If they're deregistered, they can't participate in a sanctioned Supercars event.
Surely if they are wanted to be raced overseas they would not be in a Supercars sanctioned event, rather an MSA or other overseas version of CAMS event.
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Surely if they are wanted to be raced overseas they would not be in a Supercars sanctioned event, rather an MSA or other overseas version of CAMS event.
The flip side of that is if a car that is still registered operates outside of a Supercars event, then the team it is registered to will be punished.
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Old 22 Jan 2019, 02:04 (Ref:3877616)   #26
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The flip side of that is if a car that is still registered operates outside of a Supercars event, then the team it is registered to will be punished.
So as long as it is deregistered, you can race it wherever you like around the world in whatever events you want to. So why all the BS about "sending chassis overseas limitations"? Deregister it, then put it on a plane and put it in the Penske museum. Simply.

Is this another case of "quiet day at the office today, better make a story out of nothing" ?
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Old 22 Jan 2019, 03:09 (Ref:3877621)   #27
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So as long as it is deregistered, you can race it wherever you like around the world in whatever events you want to. So why all the BS about "sending chassis overseas limitations"? Deregister it, then put it on a plane and put it in the Penske museum. Simply.

Is this another case of "quiet day at the office today, better make a story out of nothing" ?
My thoughts exactly. STFU and reap the benefits of exposure and increase in VASC awareness overseas that a car in the Penske museum will bring.
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Old 24 Jan 2019, 00:34 (Ref:3878076)   #28
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So as long as it is deregistered, you can race it wherever you like around the world in whatever events you want to. So why all the BS about "sending chassis overseas limitations"? Deregister it, then put it on a plane and put it in the Penske museum. Simply.

Is this another case of "quiet day at the office today, better make a story out of nothing" ?
Actually... reading the story Penske dont have any plans to send it overseas at the moment "Shell V-Power Racing hopes Scott McLaughlin's 2018 title-winning Supercar will enter the Penske Racing Museum in the US, even if no plans currently exist."

DJR Team Penske team principal Ryan Story said a relocation was "not something we're actively pursuing at the moment", but had been discussed.


I was a little confused by the whole story & thread after reading that.

Cars have been & will be sent O.S. Just at the end of their Supercars racing life, nothings changed there.
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Old 29 Jan 2019, 15:43 (Ref:3880445)   #29
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You'd be amazed the type of advantage a team like Penske, with all the available resources has over everyone else. Everyone is kidding themselves if you don't think a mustang body on a COTF chassis wasn't over in the US in a Wind Tunnel before all the homologation tests.
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Old 30 Jan 2019, 21:47 (Ref:3880762)   #30
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You'd be amazed the type of advantage a team like Penske, with all the available resources has over everyone else. Everyone is kidding themselves if you don't think a mustang body on a COTF chassis wasn't over in the US in a Wind Tunnel before all the homologation tests.
There's a massive difference between evidence and assumption though
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