2023 Season

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by bjohnsonsmith

The Chinese GP has been cancelled.


https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/formula1/63831931

Have been waiting for the announcement for a while

[Skam85]

It would be nice to have Sepang back.

[S griffin]

No guarantee they are going to replace to race. With so many races already on the calendar, I see no reason why they should

[greentrumpet]

I can think of $€v€ra£.

[Akrapovic]

Wasn't Portimao mentioned as the replacement? But later in the year, as the Chinese GP date clashes with WEC Portimao.

[crmalcolm]

The BBC is reporting:

'The statement said: "Formula 1 is assessing alternative options to replace the slot on the 2023 calendar and will provide an update on this in due course."

The sport will only fill the date if it can reach a satisfactory financial deal.

The Portimao circuit in Portugal, which hosted grands prix in 2020 and 2021 when F1 shuffled its schedule as a result of the pandemic, is one of the tracks under consideration.

Istanbul Park in Turkey, another track that returned in the pandemic, is also likely to be in contention.'

[sizzle]

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fe...iner/10408041/

Ferrari’s 2023 F1 engine is ‘the bomb’, says Steiner
Haas team principal Gunther Steiner has hinted that engine partner Ferrari has made major progress with its 2023 Formula 1 power unit, which he has cheekily praised as ‘the bomb.’

Hope this statement ages well!

[chunterer]

Originally Posted by sizzle

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/fe...iner/10408041/

Ferrari’s 2023 F1 engine is ‘the bomb’, says Steiner
Haas team principal Gunther Steiner has hinted that engine partner Ferrari has made major progress with its 2023 Formula 1 power unit, which he has cheekily praised as ‘the bomb.’

Hope this statement ages well!

And doesn't actually end up being a 'bomb' of an engine that blows up a lot!

[Alan52]

If you doubt this golden age of F1 is going to continue look at the demand for Albert Park next year
-Grandstand seats basically sold out on access presales before the public on sale date
-Raceday general admission tickets sold out in a few hours after they went on sale.Expected that Saturday general admission tickets will also sell out shortly.
This far surpasses even the crazy demand for this years race.

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by Alan52

If you doubt this golden age of F1 is going to continue look at the demand for Albert Park next year
-Grandstand seats basically sold out on access presales before the public on sale date
-Raceday general admission tickets sold out in a few hours after they went on sale.Expected that Saturday general admission tickets will also sell out shortly.
This far surpasses even the crazy demand for this years race.

Article here with details - quite incredible level of demand really!

[V8 Fireworks]

Originally Posted by Tourer

Article here with details - quite incredible level of demand really!

Across the pond, Indycar are really struggling for commercial relevance and sponsorship (no money for 2.4L engine plan so that's cancelled for example) while Formula One booms, even in the United States.

What's going on? Is "Drive to Survive" really that powerful? If so, why doesn't Indycar participate in their own streaming reality television show?

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by Alan52

If you doubt this golden age of F1 is going to continue look at the demand for Albert Park next year
-Grandstand seats basically sold out on access presales before the public on sale date
-Raceday general admission tickets sold out in a few hours after they went on sale.Expected that Saturday general admission tickets will also sell out shortly.
This far surpasses even the crazy demand for this years race.

And to think people thought it wouldn't return after the pandemic

[Tourer]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Across the pond, Indycar are really struggling for commercial relevance and sponsorship (no money for 2.4L engine plan so that's cancelled for example) while Formula One booms, even in the United States.

What's going on? Is "Drive to Survive" really that powerful? If so, why doesn't Indycar participate in their own streaming reality television show?

Indycar (& Champcar before it) struggle for attention as it is a domestic series & NASCAR is the big kid on the block domestically. Domestic single-seaters have struggled for years here in Australia for the same reason - Touring Cars is the big thing here domestically.

It appears that DtS is very strong - think I saw somewhere that Indycar has something similar in production & it appears that a number of sporting bodies are trying to do something similar with their behind the scenes stories.

[AndreasDavour]

What stand out to me with the 2023 schedule is that the travesty that is the Saudi GP is still on there. That one need to go, for so many reasons...

[billy bleach]

Originally Posted by AndreasDavour

What stand out to me with the 2023 schedule is that the travesty that is the Saudi GP is still on there. That one need to go, for so many reasons...

Except the most important one ....money

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by V8 Fireworks

Across the pond, Indycar are really struggling for commercial relevance and sponsorship (no money for 2.4L engine plan so that's cancelled for example) while Formula One booms, even in the United States.

What's going on? Is "Drive to Survive" really that powerful? If so, why doesn't Indycar participate in their own streaming reality television show?

According to IndyCar the 2.4L engine has been paused.

''INDYCAR is also continuing its path toward the introduction of a hybrid engine platform for the 2024 race season. This program is being developed through the collaboration of Ilmor, Chevrolet and Honda Performance Development. Testing of the hybrid motor has commenced and will continue through the 2023 season. With the introduction of the hybrid motor, the 2.4-liter engine will be paused to allow the innovative hybrid technology to be paired with the proven 2.2-liter twin-turbocharged V-6 engines.''

https://www.indycar.com/news/2022/12...H5HV1hLRObCCah

This isn't due to lack of sponsorship and has to do with a number of factors, such as not having a third engine manufacturer, limiting 2024 engine leases, cost increases post Covid, whih has reduced budgets as David Salters of HPD explains in this article from Racer.com

https://racer.com/2022/12/06/pruett-...wrong-reasons/

IndyCar are close to signoing a DtS type TV deal.

https://racer.com/2022/10/13/indycar...entary-series/

Is F1 booming in the States? The Miami GP wasn't exactly a success. It brought in a lot of money to Miami itself, $350 million but the event was a financial loss for promoter Tom Garfinkel. The race itself was dull and the layout and track surface came in for criticism from the drivers. We have yet to see how well the race in Vegas does, it could be another Miami.

[S griffin]

Originally Posted by AndreasDavour

What stand out to me with the 2023 schedule is that the travesty that is the Saudi GP is still on there. That one need to go, for so many reasons...

Couldn't agree more, I think we've seen enough to know it doesn't belong

[AndreasDavour]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Except the most important one ....money

Yeah, and that is so damn sad.

[bjohnsonsmith]

Originally Posted by billy bleach

Except the most important one ....money

Aramco are one of F1's global partners.

[Skam85]

Originally Posted by AndreasDavour

What stand out to me with the 2023 schedule is that the travesty that is the Saudi GP is still on there. That one need to go, for so many reasons...

So why Saudi and not Qatar? USA? I could go on.

[AndreasDavour]

Originally Posted by Skam85

So why Saudi and not Qatar? USA? I could go on.

I did not say other venues didn't have issues. But, if you don't know why Saudi is a bit special, I think you should read the news. Start in 2001.

[Alan52]

Originally Posted by Alan52

If you doubt this golden age of F1 is going to continue look at the demand for Albert Park next year
-Grandstand seats basically sold out on access presales before the public on sale date
-Raceday general admission tickets sold out in a few hours after they went on sale.Expected that Saturday general admission tickets will also sell out shortly.
This far surpasses even the crazy demand for this years race.

And by the end of the week Saturday General Admission tickets have sold out too.Given the crowd on Friday this year was around 110,000 will Friday finish up being a sell out?
They sure better do something about food/drink outlets and toilets because these were ridiculously inadequate this year.Inexcusable really as they knew how big the crowd would be.

[dsg]

Originally Posted by Skam85

It would be nice to have Sepang back.

With China gone it would be nice to replace it with a race in the same region rather than with another race in Europe.

[crmalcolm]

It is being reported in a number of sources that DRS zones will be shorter in 2023, but there will be more of them at tracks that can accommodate.

[sizzle]

And another gone. Seidl off from McLaren

https://www.speedcafe.com/2022/12/13...udi-f1-effort/