Home  
Site Partners: SpotterGuides Veloce Books  
Related Sites: Your Link Here  

Go Back   TenTenths Motorsport Forum > General Forums > Virtual Racers

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 13 May 2002, 16:23 (Ref:285278)   #1
Jonny Apex
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,081
Jonny Apex should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Why doesn't someone make ...

... a mid-1980s turbo era F1 game with all the old tracks: original Osterreichring, Zandvoort, original Silverstone, original Paul Ricard, Detroit (!), Dijon, Monaco with old harbour-front chicane, original Estoril, Rio etc.

I for one, would love it. Maybe I'm in a minority, however. Damn, and there's no copyright in an idea! But if you want anyone to check it for authenticity, PS/Microsoft ...
Jonny Apex is offline  
Quote
Old 13 May 2002, 17:19 (Ref:285366)   #2
Damon
Veteran
 
Damon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2001
United Kingdom
Hampshire, England
Posts: 5,577
Damon should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
You can pretty much do all that with GP3. www.grandprix3.com/en has some great season packs going right back there. I've got a 1987 set with Senna in the old JPS lotus, its great!!
Damon is offline  
Quote
Old 14 May 2002, 09:11 (Ref:285973)   #3
DNQ
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Australia
Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 4,071
DNQ should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
Yes, but it's not really that good though is it - I mean, GP3 can't simulate turbo lag, proper physics (despite the phyics editor), individual carshapes, and third party add ons are never going to be that good.
DNQ is offline  
__________________
Don't let manufacturers ruin F1. RIP Tyrrell, Arrows, Prost, Minardi, Jordan.
Quote
Old 14 May 2002, 11:51 (Ref:286153)   #4
Jonny Apex
Veteran
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 1,081
Jonny Apex should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
For me it would have to be a properly dedicated game - the full nine yards or nothing at all.

The graphics and car behaviour would have to be pucka with proper realistic attention to detail.

It was my favourite era - best looking cars, best drivers, best circuits, great racing, plenty of different winners, especially 85. I'm sure I could help if you design it, PS/Microsoft. Now what a day job that would be!
Jonny Apex is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2002, 00:49 (Ref:286831)   #5
FastJoel31
Veteran
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
United States
Near Watkins Glen
Posts: 550
FastJoel31 should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
There is a petition going on somewhere for Papyrus to make a GPL 2...hopefully it works. Sorry, but I don't remember the site.
FastJoel31 is offline  
Quote
Old 15 May 2002, 14:39 (Ref:287350)   #6
f1manoz
Veteran
 
f1manoz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Australia
Lincolnshire, UK
Posts: 7,294
f1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the gridf1manoz should be qualifying in the top 5 on the grid
I reckon a game covering everything in the past 52 years would be better. Every (decent) car, every circuit, every driver (well, the ones worth mentioning anyway).

Imagine racing one season in 1954, then racing another in 1986, then going back to 1966. That would be fantastic.

But it would have to be a real simulation.
f1manoz is offline  
__________________
Sunderland Til I Die!
Quote
Old 16 May 2002, 03:13 (Ref:287732)   #7
Lee Janotta
Veteran
 
Join Date: Feb 2002
Location:
Cleveland, Ohio, USA
Posts: 4,936
Lee Janotta should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
The problem with the hard-core sim a lot of real fans would want to see is that it's mass appeal would be nonexistant, as it'd be so involved, and more importantly, so difficult, that no casual fan could even complete a lap of Spa without crashing!

That said, what I'd love to see is a modular approach to making a racing game. Start with the world's best physics model of how a race car behaves. Then come out with theme-based packages of cars, tracks, and even opponents. A Group C/IMSA GTP carset, a more recent WSC/GT1/ALMS/SCC carset, carsets for every era of F1, a single one for CART, sets for Can-Am, Trans-Am, DTM, BTCC... Driver sets by decade, with at least a well-meaning attempt to capture the styles of Graham Hill, Fangio, Fittipaldi, Gilles and Jacques Villeneuve, Senna, Prost, and so many others... As for track packs, it could be done by decade or region... In the case of tracks that have been altered, they could be presented in several forms, if they're organized by region.

As your collection grew, you'd be able to set up races and entire seasons by picking cars, dropping in your favorite drivers, and dropping them onto the grid at a track of your choosing. Want to race against Fangio, Gilles and Senna in identical Lotus 79s on the combined Nordschleife/GP circuit at the Nurburgring? Why not?!

Of course, a basica package to start would be necessary, and a good idea would be to have the option of diving right into F1, or going thru karts and the minor Formulas, before being signed to an F1 team decided upon by your winning average in the minor Formulas (Williams if you're hot, Minardi if you _barely_ snuck in thru the back door). Perhaps, as you bought more add-on packs, you could choose other options in your career as you try to reach F1. If you're American or Canadian, maybe you'd run FFord, then Trans-Am, then CART, before hitting F1. Perhaps special opportunities could appear, like a guest ride in a vintage race, which could multiply the points you're earning towards moving up, or penalize you if you wreck a priceless vintage car!

As I said, though, the learning curve of a truly realistic physics model would turn too many people off. Since '94, the hardest part of driving an F1 car is, sadly, keeping it on the road and pointed in the right direction. As for the earlier cars, the average gamer can't really handle all the oversteer 1000+ hp turbo engines produce. And the whole thing'd just be too damn involved to justify making it for what it admittedly still a small audience for such a hard-core sim.
Lee Janotta is offline  
__________________
"Put a ****ing wheel on there! Let me go out again!"
-Gilles Villeneuve, Zandvoort, 1979
Quote
Old 16 May 2002, 06:45 (Ref:287767)   #8
DNQ
Veteran
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Australia
Brisbane, Australia
Posts: 4,071
DNQ should be qualifying in the top 10 on the grid
GPL sold very poorly, just 40,000 copies - therefore the chances of anyone having a serious crack at a nostalgia sim are very remote.
DNQ is offline  
__________________
Don't let manufacturers ruin F1. RIP Tyrrell, Arrows, Prost, Minardi, Jordan.
Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Will 10 make it 11? slicktoast Formula One 16 9 Dec 2005 13:44
Just make the DPs faster (why the "new" GTS rules will make DPs look bad again) Megatron Sportscar & GT Racing 14 8 Aug 2003 18:15
Does the car make the man or does the man make the car? neilap Formula One 42 1 Mar 2002 01:54
What changes would you make? angst Formula One 10 16 Aug 2000 08:54


All times are GMT. The time now is 22:17.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Original Website Copyright © 1998-2003 Craig Antil. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2004-2021 Royalridge Computing. All Rights Reserved.
Ten-Tenths Motorsport Forums Copyright © 2021-2022 Grant MacDonald. All Rights Reserved.