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Old 4 Apr 2003, 22:53 (Ref:558858)   #1
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Remember a guy named "Roger" ?

Although I can't access their stories, AR1 has reported that Penske will be resigning his position from the ISC.

All I can get from the website is...

Roger Penske, “The Captain,” was resigning from the board of ISC! Roger Penske is loose with billions of dollars at his disposal and no place to call home. This is a huge story, possible the single most significant motorsports news event of this year... so far! “What is Roger Penske’s next step?” should be the question hanging on the lips of the entire motorsports industry right now. When the music stops, Roger always has a chair."

Interesting. Perhaps Marlboro called their motorsports guy into the office and called him an "idiot" before firing him?

I dunno... Maybe it's a pointless thread. But it's got me curious.
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Old 4 Apr 2003, 23:45 (Ref:558913)   #2
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Won't Marlboro have to get out of the business soon like all the others?
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 02:23 (Ref:558986)   #3
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It sure makes you wonder what Roger is up to. He makes no moves without a plan. I'm sure he will do something and it will be big and he will be competing in or running something. I just can't see this man retiring and doing little woodwork projects in his garage.
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 03:22 (Ref:559002)   #4
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Do you suppose he and Bernie have had a recent lunch appointment? I hope not.
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Maybe the IRL's refusing him the rights to build his own chassis has tempted him to pick up his ball and go home. My guess is that he'll either put more weight behind his NASCAR team, or try to go back to F1, probably initially running one of this year's cars while developing one of his own to sue in 2005.
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 13:23 (Ref:559255)   #6
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???????

• Roger Penske's decision to resign from the board of directors of the International Speedway Corp. has provoked speculation about his reasoning and his future plans.

According to one Penske source, the boss is pondering joining Bernie Ecclestone as a business partner in a major revival of CART, as a Formula One satellite series. The most intriguing part of the Penske-Ecclestone story is the possibility of a new U.S. Formula One race in Las Vegas. That electric city that was Ecclestone's first choice for the race when it was revived in 2000, but Ecclestone became frustrated with city officials lagging on approving his plans for a layout just south of the Strip.

http://www.journalnow.com/wsj/sports/MGBT8EC15ED.html
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 13:33 (Ref:559260)   #7
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Hmmm, very interesting.

Penske-Ecclestone weighs up nicely against George-Ganassi...the next year is going to be very nicely.
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Penske's merger deal with ISC provided for three board seats. If his stock holdings were sold below a certain level, he relinquished board seats accordingly. He sold stock and used the proceeds to prop up his United Auto holdings. In doing so, he gave up two board seats, his own and Walt Czarnecki's. His son, Greg, remains on the ISC board and remains as GM at Fontana. There is no racing "action" going on.
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the next year is going to be very nicely.
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I don't know what to think, would we want Penske involved in CART with Bernie? Will CART have to be a satalight series to F1 for Bernie to be involved?
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Boots... Because of NASCAR's relationship with the ISC, I'm inclined to discount your theory that he's about to "put more weight behind his NASCAR team."
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Maybe Penske just misses right-hand turns?
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 21:47 (Ref:559577)   #13
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Perhaps he's upset that Gil is getting injured...

Refresh my memory...

When Penske left, did he actually trash CART? I know that he sat on the fence for awhile and his decision to desert upset many of us. And I know that he built up the IRL as best he could. But did he ever actually trash CART, ala Ganassi? (I'm just trying to decide whether or not I would welcome him back or not!)

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First of all, if Roger Penske wanted back in CART, I'd let him in with open arms. I seriously don't think that he wants to be in the IRL. It's just that his sponsor wants to be at Indy, and that isn't legally possible if Penske is in CART.

Although I don't believe it, the rumor about Penske going to Formula 1 would be great. He has extensive ties to DaimlerChrysler, as Mercedes-Benz once supplied his CART engines and he runs Dodges in NASCAR, so he might be able to purchase Mercedes engines. He can run Helio Castroneves in one car, and buy out one of the versatile-stock-car-driving-Indiana-boys-whose-names-are-always-mentioned-when-someone-wonders-if-an-American-can-drive-in-F1's contracts (I bet it would be the angry one), and suddenly you have an American Formula 1 team with a driver that people will follow.
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Old 5 Apr 2003, 22:30 (Ref:559589)   #15
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Roger Penske is a smart man. In on the ground floor of CART and out on the top floor. Once again Roger could find himself in on the ground floor of CART, the new CART. To answer your question Macdaddy, I don't think he has burned many, if any, bridges with CART.

While all my own speculation, with a new N/A V-10, the possibility of Bernie and Forsythe as major partners, the possibility of going private again, it could be a major coup for him. I don't see Penske going to F1. It has seen its highest height IMO. Not like Roger to ride the downhill side. Penske has proved many times he is up to the challenge of a start-up or turn-around in many businesses not just racing. If you think about the current situation it makes sense that CART's future could have Penske's name written all over it.

My previous post was not based in anything except a hunch. Looks like others have had the same one. This should be fun to see if anything really comes of it.
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One thing to remember is that Penske left while Joe H was still in control. Perhaps he would have stayed if Pook had been brought on board earlier? To his own defence, CART really was lying on its deathbed at the time. I remember how upset I was with his decision, but I also understood his point of view.

Now I'm going way out on a limb with my speculating, but IF he ever did return to CART, the best thing to come out of it would be the fact that I could once again wear my Penske hats and jackets!
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I wouldn't say CART was on it's deathbed when Penske left, but I suppose the imcompetant CEO should be taken into consideration. Penske could have used his muscle to ensure Pook got the job. Toyota would have had a hard sell going to IRL would have had a much harder sell going to the IRL. Recall that it was CART's actions that was a big motivator for Honda to leave. Toyota took a LONG time to get up to speed with their engines and then proceeded to try to bully CART into the silly IRL formula.
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Too bad he sold Michigan International!
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Is it coincidence that coincidences often happen coincidentally?

Like, Mazda Raceway signs a contract that lasts as long as Ford's does?

Or like, Penske is running a Panoz CrapChassis for the first time next race? The first event to take place after Panoz buys Reynard? Which was previously owned by Forsythe?
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Old 6 Apr 2003, 03:31 (Ref:559740)   #20
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Check that.
Panoz bought Reynard from Walker. Not Forsythe. I knew better. But you get my point.
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i think it would be great if roger Penske came to CART. What a slap in the face it would be to the IRL after they bragged about having them.
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I'm not trying to stamp on anyone's theories or anything, but does anyone honestly see this liklihood occuring?
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Honestly, if Bernie comes on board I think there is better than a 50/50 chance that Penske will have some ownership and be running cars in CART by '05.
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If I've learned anything over the last two or three seasons, it's that anything can happen! At the very least, it gives us something to talk about while we wait for LBeach! All he did was resign from the ISC, it's not like he bought 12% of CART or anything. But with all of the Bernie rumours thrown into the mix, it makes speculation fun!
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The only trashing that I remember Roger making was statements along the line of "there's only room for one OW series, and I think I know which one is going to survive." At the time, CART still hadn't had the floor drop out on them (publicly). I think his comments were really just aimed at that, since he obviously knew what was about to happen with Honda and Toyota.

It certainly wasn't the type of sly crud that the Potato Snackster was pulling...
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