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Old 27 Mar 2014, 16:36 (Ref:3385213)   #376
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I feel like Toyota has really hit the marketing jackpot with that "1000hp" figure.

Twitter is already going nuts over it, it's a very effective way to sum up the fascination behind the car in one simple figure everyone understands.

They really seem to have upped their game this year. Preparation-wise, marketing-wise...if the car's quick now as well this could be a splendid season for TMG.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 16:46 (Ref:3385220)   #377
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Some Vasselon's statements which bring complements on E-I :
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Until last year, one hybrid system was sufficient. The set of the new rules allows us to have more hybrid energy. In 2013, we had 3 to 3,5 MJ in the 24 Hours of Le Mans. We now have a bigger engine of 3.7 litres knowing that we have to deal with a fuel reduction of 25%. We thought that the best compromise was to opt for 6 MJ but we could have up to 8 MJ. We will stay at 6 MJ per lap of hybrid capacity throughout the season.
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"Compared to Audi, we have shown that our hybrid system was good. We must see how Porsche will perform. It is interesting that the three manufacturers have taken different paths, but finally, the best should win. It's really positive for the championship to have one more manufacturer. Toyota Racing is much better prepared than the previous two years.

Unlike last year, the two cars will be present on the entire championship, even after Le Mans. We could have entered a third car at Le Mans, but the budget does not allow it."
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 16:57 (Ref:3385224)   #378
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I feel like Toyota has really hit the marketing jackpot with that "1000hp" figure.
If only this could bring more spectators around the circuits...
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 17:02 (Ref:3385227)   #379
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If only this could bring more spectators around the circuits...
Let the audience go near cars and pilote´s (racing weekend) and create app´s to people familiarize with the team´s and you might see some more spectators.

I have some ideas… but i don´t think if they are feasible.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 17:39 (Ref:3385233)   #380
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If only this could bring more spectators around the circuits...
Maybe they should be less concerned about a global series and spend more time in countries where people really care about this stuff.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 17:45 (Ref:3385238)   #381
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Maybe they should be less concerned about a global series and spend more time in countries where people really care about this stuff.
Theres a billion more people in China than the U.S. The gulf area middle east has super high market potential. Those are the only two areas you can say people don't care. But they do matter!
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 17:47 (Ref:3385240)   #382
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Maybe they should be less concerned about a global series and spend more time in countries where people really care about this stuff.
There wasn't anything wrong with China's attendance last year, the sport is still growing there.

I've actually been more disappointed with some of the attendances from countries where people do care.

But to put it back on topic - nothing is going to happen overnight. This series isn't even five years old yet, but there's evidence of it growing despite most of its efforts being diverted towards consolidating what's already there.

Nice to see Toyota step up their marketing game a bit. People need to hear about these cars, it's one sure way of catching their interest.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 17:48 (Ref:3385241)   #383
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So the headlights will change again "in a couple weeks" according to their twitter feed http://twitter.com/Toyota_Hybrid/sta...05420624982016
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 19:42 (Ref:3385275)   #384
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i think the studio shot front end is quite a clever way around the inefficiency of the BHH in the front fenders.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 20:01 (Ref:3385282)   #385
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According to https://twitter.com/specutainment/st...27514297073664 the engine displacement is increased from 3.4 to 3.7 liters.

Another prediction by hcl123 gone wrong

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Quite a bit less fuel and the displacement augments to 4L (or more) in a petrol normal aspirated engine ??? ...

Most likely it will go back to 3L, optimized and for *more* revs... hybrid power now must help the engine at mid/low regimes to, where the torque is weak ( no problem now they have more than double of 2013 with 8MJ)...
Yes i was wrong... or not much... since its optimized for *less* revs, and so for the same power output figures they augmented the displacement.

I think its essentially a "torque" tweak, and they are not so much about fuel economy, so 6MJ( more fuel flow than 8 MJ).

I like it more than Porsche, meaning they are there to compete on track not on "pit stop" numbers. Its for max performance under the fuel flows, no matter if it means more stops.

Also the 1000PS (986 bhp) doubt they will make it to that levels in any occasion... though the potentiality is there... simply because it will make the hybrid release events very powerful but very very short in duration... doubt it would be the best option. Though the higher displacement and so more torque, seems to reveal they (Toyota) are for perhaps even shorter (though more powerful) events than in 2013.

~6MJ makes ~0.745MJ per event, counting 8 events at Le Mans

0.745 MJ = 745KW in 1 sec or ~ 998hp in 1 sec... to have release events of 480PS (473 hp), so to make that 1000 PS, each of those release events would have to be only (998/473) 2.11 seconds per event... seems hardly enough for anything good helping the engine.

Could be interesting, but yet i maintain my forecast, Audi will have the same 6MJ -> they could also have 1000PS if they wish... (and all will be definitely set in favor of diesel as soon as they start pre-heating the fuel flow in the exhaust or the engine colling liquid... and activating it, by passing a low voltage current through the common rail tubes-> there are diesels still with glow plugs, just make it kind of permanent... do that to petrol and you "knock" yourself out pretty soon lol )

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Audi are running 2MJ
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 20:23 (Ref:3385293)   #387
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So the headlights will change again "in a couple weeks" according to their twitter feed http://twitter.com/Toyota_Hybrid/sta...05420624982016
Thank god.
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Old 27 Mar 2014, 20:37 (Ref:3385299)   #388
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was it not that Ferrari had issue with calibration, I also doubt heavily that Ferrari wanted help from Toyota as that might let them see the car. I imagine Toyota have no issue with calibrating it with their own wind tunnel.
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Toyota might have an edge in traffic with their huge hybrid power.

Perhaps we will see a repeat of 2012, where the R18 ultra was as fast as R18 e-tron quattro on a clear track but could not match it in traffic.
Its equal to everybody -> 6MJ. Besides i don't think "hybrid" is that helpful in traffic, it will only function in the release points, the rest, middle speed sections other corners, (not hybrid) is the "engine torque" that rules... so i think is Audi still with an edge on traffic.
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They're free to use the hybrid when they want now.
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Audi are running 2MJ
Where is that officially stated ? (i've been out) ... last "official" presentation was 6MJ (Porsche the same)
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I think the headlights and that blunt nose look **** .
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Where is that officially stated ? (i've been out) ... last "official" presentation was 6MJ (Porsche the same)
Here is Audi's official press release.
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They're free to use the hybrid when they want now.
But they can't use more than 6MJ ( or up to 8MJ if they change their mind). Waste "energy" on a pass, to be left out when upon the next corner were it would be much more effective, seems very crazy lol
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But they can't use more than 6MJ ( or up to 8MJ if they change their mind). Waste "energy" on a pass, to be left out when upon the next corner were it would be much more effective, seems very crazy lol
I don't think teams will see it as wasting energy though.
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To go back to the earlier chat, my understanding was that the fins acted like sails mid corner to aid downforce, or at least that is what Georgio Piola suggest it was for in f1 one, it stabilizes air flow onto the rear wing. I can look out that book and take a pic of it if you want?
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Get rid of the Lister LMP-inspired fenders and that'd be stunning. At the moment, it's just short of perfection

It might be confirmation bias talking, but the TS040 looks more aerodynamically advanced than the R18; there seem to be many more tricks especially around the rear wing and sidepods.
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More or less. They still have to release energy in individual release cycles, and mainly upon exiting corners in order to assist the engine upon acceleration. I actually doubt that they have much flexibility in practice as to when to make best use of the hybrid power boost.
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More or less. They still have to release energy in individual release cycles, and mainly upon exiting corners in order to assist the engine upon acceleration. I actually doubt that they have much flexibility in practice as to when to make best use of the hybrid power boost.
I think in a Chris Harris video Bernhard said they have a paddle which can be used to activate the hybrid when they want it.
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