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Old 12 Dec 2014, 10:47 (Ref:3484351)   #76
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Hasn't been announced by CAMS, was a leak found on the F4 Wikipedia page. Understand announcement due next week.

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Old 12 Dec 2014, 11:02 (Ref:3484354)   #77
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Care to explain why the puzzled icon? You would prefer something else?
The F4 FIAT engine destined to be in the AusF4 car makes 130bhp according to the link. The UK version is a Ford Duratec unit making 185bhp.

Bit of a difference in horsepower there... and arguably not a huge jump in the FIAT power to the existing Fiesta engine in the latest Formula Fords.

Is the FIAT connection a pukka 'works' deal, with marketing & promotion by the local FIAT factory importer, to highlight their involvement in the series? Local FIAT volumes seem primarily in the commercial vehicles in their range, so is that a fit for them, and for the F4 category.

Hence my puzzlement...
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 11:37 (Ref:3484364)   #78
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Perhaps the teams are required to purchase a complete Bambino/500, or whatever that engine belongs to, as a way of acquiring their power plant?
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 11:48 (Ref:3484367)   #79
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Would have been nice if Ford had been the engine supplier and Series promoter /manager as in the UK (and France?) but I was of the impression that all F4engines worldwide were meant to be similar performance?

Still ,another manufacturer on the Australian Motorsport scene in the Fiat /Chrysler Group is very welcome.
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Perhaps the teams are required to purchase a complete Bambino/500, or whatever that engine belongs to, as a way of acquiring their power plant?
Not sure, but it is a challenge when the information is drip fed, and competitors are asked to commit to what is the equivalent of vapourware with a number of key details missing.

Interesting that the UK variant of F4 isnt using the Mygale chassis either.

Which perhaps makes the experience in the category less transferable for a local pilot looking to race in Europe in the F4 class...
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 14:31 (Ref:3484416)   #81
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Interesting that the UK variant of F4 isnt using the Mygale chassis either.
Er, yes it is and I thought the engines are significantly lower than 185 bhp for 2015.
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 21:23 (Ref:3484508)   #82
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Don't use F4 in Britain as any sort of yard stick. It existed before the FIA decided on a format and is in a gradual process of aligning regulations. But that'll probably take a couple of years from what I've heard.
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 21:59 (Ref:3484513)   #83
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So why couldn't CAMS have latched onto a more stable global spec, such as F3, for instance?
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 22:26 (Ref:3484526)   #84
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The cynical view might be that F4 allows the opportunity for significant tax advantages for high wealth individuals, a mantra that continues from the AMSF operation... and given that there are 30+ F3 cars already here, F3 was never going to achieve that goal...
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Old 12 Dec 2014, 23:54 (Ref:3484539)   #85
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The F4 FIAT engine destined to be in the AusF4 car makes 130bhp according to the link. The UK version is a Ford Duratec unit making 185bhp.

Bit of a difference in horsepower there... and arguably not a huge jump in the FIAT power to the existing Fiesta engine in the latest Formula Fords.

Is the FIAT connection a pukka 'works' deal, with marketing & promotion by the local FIAT factory importer, to highlight their involvement in the series? Local FIAT volumes seem primarily in the commercial vehicles in their range, so is that a fit for them, and for the F4 category.

Hence my puzzlement...
Why didn't you write all that initially? Stupid icons convey nothing.
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Australasian Touring Cars. (93 Viewing)
Discussion on road racing categories such as V8Supercar, V8 Development Series, NZV8's, Aussie Racers, Asian Touring Cars, Targa Tasmania, V8Utes, Saloon Cars, IPRA, Commodore Cup, Marque Sports and any other ANZ&A tintops.

Why are we discussing an open wheeler racing class here?? They haven't got a doors or a roof the last I heard nor are they a road racing category.
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oh boo hoo it doesn't fit with some description... Who cares?
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Old 15 Dec 2014, 01:42 (Ref:3485083)   #89
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Didn't we go down this path with the GT related topics.
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Didn't we go down this path with the GT related topics.
Yes we did. And they are happily bouncing along amongst the GT threads from all round the world.

This thread may end up in the international single seaters piece as well, but it is Australian, and doesnt technically exist yet.. so it stays here..
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I just wanted clarification for the future and a ruling from Mr GTR on why it is here.
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FORD TO SUPPLY CAMS FORMULA 4 ENGINES

Ford has been confirmed as the official engine supplier for the Confederation of Australian Motor Sport backed Formula 4 Championship next season.
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Old 22 Dec 2014, 01:25 (Ref:3487039)   #93
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Yes we did. And they are happily bouncing along amongst the GT threads from all round the world.

This thread may end up in the international single seaters piece as well, but it is Australian, and doesnt technically exist yet.. so it stays here..
Aren't the Bathurst 12 Hour and Australian GT championship Australian as well?

Does seem a little double standards.
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Aren't the Bathurst 12 Hour and Australian GT championship Australian as well?

Does seem a little double standards.
Agreed

The "V8SC to buy AusGT" seems to be allowed to stay in this section as well....
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Fantastic news that Ford will be the engine supplier bringing Australia into line with British and European Formula 4 series.

Ford fans in Australia will be pleased to see that Ford are not lost to Australian motorsport.
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